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    You're welcome. Please see amendments in red!
    Thanks for correcting me, this really helps a lot of non-English speaker just like me. Could I write it like this though, without removing the word "freely"?

    "Thanks, that explains it. Now I can breathe freely."?

    @Bobk Thanks for that wonderful link you gave. By the way, what did you mean by "OP"?

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    You - the Original Poster.

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    Okay Nyota, I used feel as a reaction to touch. Off couse there is also feel and feelings as a result of intuition, for instance. All of them abstract, of course. Also I think abstract art, not showing any theme in concrete, is meant to do just that: induce feelings. While to induce them the artist abstracted from the theme turning it into a thought without specific terms of referrence.

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    Is this an abstract idea? Not applicable in real life?

    "Someday I will go to Mars and play tag with the Martians."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mabzki View Post
    Is this an abstract idea? Not applicable in real life?

    "Someday I will go to Mars and play tag with the Martians."
    I wouldn't say that that is an abstract idea. It seems quite concrete, although completely unrealistic!

    An abstract version of that might be something like "Someday I might go to some planet or other and play something with some beings who might live on that planet." That's pretty abstract as far as ideas go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I wouldn't say that that is an abstract idea. It seems quite concrete, although completely unrealistic!

    An abstract version of that might be something like "Someday I might go to some planet or other and play something with some beings who might live on that planet." That's pretty abstract as far as ideas go!
    I'm figuring out the sentence that you wrote, you're referring to a non-specific things that an abstract idea is. So this is correct?
    Why would you say its concrete? Do Martians actually exist, I think no one knows, so it is an abstract idea right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mabzki View Post
    I'm figuring out the sentence that you wrote, you're referring to a non-specific things that an abstract idea is. So this is correct?
    Why would you say its concrete? Do Martians actually exist, I think no one knows, so it is an abstract idea right?
    The idea of an 'abstract idea' is in itself rather abstract.

    There does not seem to be much agreement in what an 'abstract idea' is, as you will find if you google the words.

    An idea itself is, in some ways abstract, but, in my opinion, the possible existence of Martians is not particularly abstract. It is a hypothetical question, but that's not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
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    An idea itself is, in some ways abstract, but, in my opinion, the possible existence of Martians is not particularly abstract. It is a hypothetical question, but that's not the same thing...
    I had a friend many years ago studying for the priesthood, and while he was studying Canon Law he came across - and briefly but unsuccessfully adopted - the prescriptive view that ideas were about concrete things, whereas notions were about abstract things: 'the idea of an apple' but 'the notion of seriousness'. But this is silly. I only mention it because some students may meet such a prejudice.

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    Another try of the abstract idea:

    "An innocent being with an unknown lifeform that lives in a destructive planet which has a powerful force of energy.

    Is this abstract?

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