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    Default how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Hey there! When I listen to native speaker, they don't utter the /k/ sound when saying the word 'BOX'. Do they cut the airflow and then make the s sound without releasing the /K/ sound?
    I was told to move my back of the tongue to the soft palate, and then make the s sound without moving my tongue. How do you know if you make the /g/ sound instead of /k/ sound? As you know, both two sounds are in the same position.
    Well, for example the word 'back's' and 'bags'. If I told not to release the /g/ or /k/ sound after sayin the BA sound, how do I distinguish if I make the /g/ or /k/ sound?
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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    For me, the /k/ sound is pronounced with the tongue further back.

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    For me, the /k/ sound is pronounced with the tongue further back.
    Yes, so how do you make the /ks/ sound as in Locks?

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    First, two questions. Please read them carefully and try to answer.

    1. Can you distinguish between /k/ and /g/ when you hear them?

    2. Can you pronounce both /k/ and /g/?

    Now,
    Hey there! When I listen to native speaker, they don't utter the /k/ sound when saying the word 'BOX'.
    It is strange that you don't hear the /k/. The sound is pronounced.

    Do they cut the airflow and then make the s sound without releasing the /K/ sound?
    I don't think I have ever heard anyone pronounce /ks/ the way you are describing. /k/ is pronounced.

    I was told to move my back of the tongue to the soft palate, and then make the s sound without moving my tongue.
    What you were told is incorrect. You have to move your tongue a little bit to pronounce /s/ right after /k/. These sounds are not articulated in the same place.

    If I told not to release the /g/ or /k/ sound after sayin the BA sound, how do I distinguish if I make the /g/ or /k/ sound?
    I do not understand this question. Please answer my questions first.

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Also, words that end with /g/ take /z/ in the plural form (backs /bæks/, bags /bægz/).

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    First, two questions. Please read them carefully and try to answer.

    1. Can you distinguish between /k/ and /g/ when you hear them?

    Yes. At least I know if native speaker make the /k/ or /g/ sound.

    2. Can you pronounce both /k/ and /g/?

    Yes, I suppose

    Now,

    It is strange that you don't hear the /k/. The sound is pronounced.


    I don't think I have ever heard anyone pronounce /ks/ the way you are describing. /k/ is pronounced.



    What you were told is incorrect. You have to move your tongue a little bit to pronounce /s/ right after /k/. These sounds are not articulated in the same place.


    I do not understand this question. Please answer my questions first.
    Well, I think they probably made the /k/ sound fast before the /s/ sound. How do you explain the /ts/ sound? Please watch this video. How to Make the TS Sound | Rachel's English
    In short, what she said is to make the /ts/ sound, put your tongue on the gum ridge to make the stop /t/ sound, then make the /s/ sound.

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Quote Originally Posted by thatone View Post
    Also, words that end with /g/ take /z/ in the plural form (backs /bæks/, bags /bægz/).
    Well, you're telling me well!
    what i asked is how you distinguish the /g/ and /k/ sounds when it's in the middle of the words like gs,ks,ts. By the way, I think I'm wrong. Probably I'm supposed to make the k sound fast.

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    I can't at the moment think of any words in English with a /gs/ sound in the middle. In compounds such as egg-spoon, there is a very short pause between the /g/ and the /s/. It is different from the /gz/ in 'examine' and the /ks/ in 'excel'

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    I can't at the moment think of any words in English with a /gs/ sound in the middle. In compounds such as egg-spoon, there is a very short pause between the /g/ and the /s/. It is different from the /gz/ in 'examine' and the /ks/ in 'excel'
    So, can you tell me the difference? Do you make the two k sounds when you pronounce the word /excuses/?

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    Default Re: how do you make the ks sound as in Box properly?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontBanMe View Post
    So, can you tell me the difference?
    What difference do you want to know? You said you can distinguish between /g/ and /k/ when you hear them and that you can pronounce both. What is it that you don't understand?

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