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    Lightbulb etc. (et cetera)

    etc. (et cetera) is pronounced "it setera" as you all know.
    But I've run into a couple of people who pronounce it "ik setera"!
    I'm I'm sure that they pronounced it with a "k".

    I've looked for the pronunciation in several dictionaries and could not find any that list "ik setera" as a pronunciations.

    Any input on that?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    etc. (et cetera) is pronounced "it setera" as you all know.
    But I've run into a couple of people who pronounce it "ik setera"!
    I'm I'm sure that they pronounced it with a "k".

    I've looked for the pronunciation in several dictionaries and could not find any that list "ik setera" as a pronunciations.

    Any input on that?

    Thanks.
    Well, I looked up my online dictionary and turns out the phonetics transcription is /ɛt ˈsɛtərə/ instead of /it setera/ or whatever pronunciation.

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Merriam Webster does, though it's a dialectal pronunciation

    Etcetera - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by DontBanMe View Post
    Well, I looked up my online dictionary and turns out the phonetics transcription is /ɛt ˈsɛtərə/ instead of /it setera/ or whatever pronunciation.
    Yes, I was not transcribing the voewls right, my concentration was on the t/k thing.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by thatone View Post
    Merriam Webster does, though it's a dialectal pronunciation

    Etcetera - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    Great, thanks :)
    Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    Great, thanks :)
    Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?
    Perhaps, but it's a regional/dialectal things, along the lines of "aks" (for "ask") or "nucular" (for "nuclear").

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    According to John Wells in the LPD, /k/ is generally considered to be incorrect.

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    Great, thanks :)
    Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?
    Not just Am E. It's a common feature of some Br English as well - but it's a mistake (and is regarded with ridicule in some quarters). Don't use it.

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    According to John Wells in the LPD, /k/ is generally considered to be incorrect.
    Thanks fivejedjon.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Not just Am E. It's a common feature of some Br English as well - but it's a mistake (and is regarded with ridicule in some quarters). Don't use it.

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    Oh I see. Thanks.
    What do you mean by "quarters"?

    Thanks a lot all :)

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    Default Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    ...Oh I see. Thanks.
    What do you mean by "quarters"?

    Thanks a lot all :)
    In some places/people/communities/classes ... anywhere opinions are held.

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