Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13
  1. Ducklet Cat's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Interested in Language
      • Native Language:
      • Arabic
      • Home Country:
      • Kuwait
      • Current Location:
      • Kuwait

    • Join Date: Dec 2005
    • Posts: 319
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #1

    Lightbulb etc. (et cetera)

    etc. (et cetera) is pronounced "it setera" as you all know.
    But I've run into a couple of people who pronounce it "ik setera"!
    I'm I'm sure that they pronounced it with a "k".

    I've looked for the pronunciation in several dictionaries and could not find any that list "ik setera" as a pronunciations.

    Any input on that?

    Thanks.

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Malaysia

    • Join Date: Apr 2011
    • Posts: 113
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #2

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    etc. (et cetera) is pronounced "it setera" as you all know.
    But I've run into a couple of people who pronounce it "ik setera"!
    I'm I'm sure that they pronounced it with a "k".

    I've looked for the pronunciation in several dictionaries and could not find any that list "ik setera" as a pronunciations.

    Any input on that?

    Thanks.
    Well, I looked up my online dictionary and turns out the phonetics transcription is /ɛt ˈsɛtərə/ instead of /it setera/ or whatever pronunciation.

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • Italian
      • Home Country:
      • Italy
      • Current Location:
      • Italy

    • Join Date: Aug 2010
    • Posts: 139
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #3

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Merriam Webster does, though it's a dialectal pronunciation

    Etcetera - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

  2. Ducklet Cat's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Interested in Language
      • Native Language:
      • Arabic
      • Home Country:
      • Kuwait
      • Current Location:
      • Kuwait

    • Join Date: Dec 2005
    • Posts: 319
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #4

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by DontBanMe View Post
    Well, I looked up my online dictionary and turns out the phonetics transcription is /ɛt ˈsɛtərə/ instead of /it setera/ or whatever pronunciation.
    Yes, I was not transcribing the voewls right, my concentration was on the t/k thing.

    Thanks.

  3. Ducklet Cat's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Interested in Language
      • Native Language:
      • Arabic
      • Home Country:
      • Kuwait
      • Current Location:
      • Kuwait

    • Join Date: Dec 2005
    • Posts: 319
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #5

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by thatone View Post
    Merriam Webster does, though it's a dialectal pronunciation

    Etcetera - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    Great, thanks :)
    Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • Italian
      • Home Country:
      • Italy
      • Current Location:
      • Italy

    • Join Date: Aug 2010
    • Posts: 139
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #6

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    Great, thanks :)
    Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?
    Perhaps, but it's a regional/dialectal things, along the lines of "aks" (for "ask") or "nucular" (for "nuclear").

  4. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Retired English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,167
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #7

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    According to John Wells in the LPD, /k/ is generally considered to be incorrect.

  5. BobK's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2006
    • Posts: 15,854
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #8

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    Great, thanks :)
    Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?
    Not just Am E. It's a common feature of some Br English as well - but it's a mistake (and is regarded with ridicule in some quarters). Don't use it.

    b

  6. Ducklet Cat's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Interested in Language
      • Native Language:
      • Arabic
      • Home Country:
      • Kuwait
      • Current Location:
      • Kuwait

    • Join Date: Dec 2005
    • Posts: 319
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #9

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    According to John Wells in the LPD, /k/ is generally considered to be incorrect.
    Thanks fivejedjon.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Not just Am E. It's a common feature of some Br English as well - but it's a mistake (and is regarded with ridicule in some quarters). Don't use it.

    b
    Oh I see. Thanks.
    What do you mean by "quarters"?

    Thanks a lot all :)

  7. BobK's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2006
    • Posts: 15,854
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #10

    Re: etc. (et cetera)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    ...Oh I see. Thanks.
    What do you mean by "quarters"?

    Thanks a lot all :)
    In some places/people/communities/classes ... anywhere opinions are held.

    b

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Et cetera
    By Deepurple in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 14-Feb-2008, 12:08
  2. et cetera after such as, for example/instance
    By albertino in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-Jun-2007, 16:49
  3. How to pronounce Cetera (as singer Peter Cetera)?
    By pray4amy in forum Pronunciation and Phonetics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 15-Sep-2006, 00:01

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •