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    Default Re: The coldest start to (a) June on record

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    (1) Thank you for your kind note.

    (2) Usingenglish.com [when I first joined this website, a veteran member, one of their top teachers, admonished me for putting a period after com]
    is great because I get to meet people who are eager to discuss grammar.
    (Most Americans run from grammar. Many high schools no longer teach it, for the students say it is "boring." A few years ago, a young lady actually stopped me on the sidewalk to ask me how "succeed" is spelled!!!)

    (3) I actually read your note at 7 a.m. and then I had to leave for
    a medical appointment. It is now 1:30 p.m., and I had hoped that a teacher would have answered you by now. Then I, too, would know the answers. Alas! No one has (as I type these words), so let me comment
    on two of your points:

    (a) I do believe that in your link (an Australian newspaper) the headline lacks the "a," and a gentleman is quoted in the article using an "a." After I post this, I will check again. If I am mistaken, then I'll edit this post.

    (b) Regarding "The theater [Americans only spell it as "theatre" when they
    want to be very fancy or elegant!!!] opened in May," and "We got married in December," why, yes, I do believe there are cases where [when?] an
    "a" is possible:

    Tony: Are you married?

    Joe: Not anymore.

    Tony: Oh, I'm sorry.

    Joe: Yeah, it was one of those cases. We got married in a December

    and divorced in the following January.



    Respectfully yours,


    James

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    Default Re: The coldest start to (a) June on record

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post

    (a) I do believe that in your link (an Australian newspaper) the headline lacks the "a," and a gentleman is quoted in the article using an "a." After I post this, I will check again. If I am mistaken, then I'll edit this post.

    Actually it's used three times, (1) in the headline, (2) at the beginning of the article, and (3) in a quote.
    1) Coldest start to winter on record in Adelaide
    2) ANYONE shivering in Adelaide this morning had good reason to do so - it was the coldest start to June on record.
    3) "I think it's the coldest start to a June that we've ever had at Kent Town," Mr Rowlands said.
    So, not only is the indefinite article omitted in the heading, but also in the text.


    (b) Regarding "The theater [Americans only spell it as "theatre" when they
    want to be very fancy or elegant!!!] opened in May," and "We got married in December," why, yes, I do believe there are cases where [when?] It's funny that you should mention that. I was wondering about the same thing myself. an
    "a" is possible:

    Tony: Are you married?

    Joe: Not anymore.

    Tony: Oh, I'm sorry.

    Joe: Yeah, it was one of those cases. We got married in a December

    and divorced in the following January.

    So, is the December in your example different from the previous one because you added the 'January' follow-up?
    nyota

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    Default Re: The coldest start to (a) June on record

    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
    nyota

    NOT A TEACHER


    (1) Yes, you are 100% correct: three times. Once, by the headline

    writer; once by the writer who wrote the first paragraph; once

    (with the "correct" use) by a gentleman who is quoted.

    (2) By the way, I thought of your post this very morning when I read

    this sentence written by a British gentleman in the 1920's:

    "The [name of a British newspaper] has been running a great

    agricultural stunt all the summer." I suppose that "the" is technically

    correct, but I do not think most people would write like that today.

    [Or "to-day," as they used to spell it!!!] [I did not name the newspaper,

    for it had and still has a rather controversial reputation; I do not

    understand what it means by "stunt."]

    (3) No, I do not believe "a December" necessarily depends on a following

    reference to January. I'm thinking of something like:

    It happened in a December that I want to forget about./ It happened in

    one December that I want to forget about.


    Sincerely,



    James

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