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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

    Quote Originally Posted by islacat View Post
    Thanks fivejedjon. I hadn't actually considered the Trinity Diploma as an alternative, so I will look into that too.
    I have a Trinity Diploma myself, and found the course interesting and useful. It is recognised as being at the same QCA Level 7 as DELTA.

    The one silght downside is that it is less well known than the DELTA, but this is not normally a problem.
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    Yes, I have just had a look at their website and it certainly looks good. Also looks cheaper than the DELTA.

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

    Quote Originally Posted by islacat View Post
    Hi, yes one employer I approached - the head of dept at a local college with a community based ESOL dept where I currently volunteer - said that they always ask for DELTA from prospective employees and that have not accepted masters in the past. I wrote back and said that this particular masters that I am thinking of doing - at Edinburgh University - has a teaching component. She then said that she would look into it and that perhaps she was not up to date with the teaching element on that particular course. She hasn't got back to me yet. But she was certainly pro DELTA and not at all sure about the masters....
    Interesting, though I can't say that I am impressed by their attitude.

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

    No, I agree; it's all a bit depressing!

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

    I asked a friend and he said that he was told to get a DELTA if he wanted a full-time contract and he has an MA and a doctorate. He's planning to leave the UK.

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

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    I asked a friend and he said that he was told to get a DELTA if he wanted a full-time contract and he has an MA and a doctorate. He's planning to leave the UK.
    I have some sympathy with his decision. If he has relevant teaching experience, he must feel more than a little disgruntled.

    On the other hand, I have had to explain to some candidates for a teaching post that a couple of masters degrees and a PhD do not necessarily mean that they can teach.

    We know that people with a DELTA or Trinity Dip have had their teaching observed and assessed, and that they have had a minimum of a year's teaching experience. Some people with higher degrees have never taught in their lives.

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

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    I have some sympathy with his decision. If he has relevant teaching experience, he must feel more than a little disgruntled.

    On the other hand, I have had to explain to some candidates for a teaching post that a couple of masters degrees and a PhD do not necessarily mean that they can teach.

    We know that people with a DELTA or Trinity Dip have had their teaching observed and assessed, and that they have had a minimum of a year's teaching experience. Some people with higher degrees have never taught in their lives.
    I can see your point there. What is difficult with my Masters course is that it does have a taught component (TEFLQ) but it is quite a new course (2 - 3 years I think) and it just doesn't seem to be very widely recognised. I am really beginning to think that DELTA or Trinity Dip is the easier option. I can't be doing with explaining and justifying my course for the rest of my career!

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    I have some sympathy with his decision. If he has relevant teaching experience, he must feel more than a little disgruntled.

    On the other hand, I have had to explain to some candidates for a teaching post that a couple of masters degrees and a PhD do not necessarily mean that they can teach.

    We know that people with a DELTA or Trinity Dip have had their teaching observed and assessed, and that they have had a minimum of a year's teaching experience. Some people with higher degrees have never taught in their lives.
    Lots of experience and was working there- it was about getting a full-time contract.

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    Re: DELTA or MSc TESOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Lots of experience and was working there- it was about getting a full-time contract.
    Then he is better off not working for idiots like that.

    I would not differentiate between an MA and a diploma when combined with experience; I'd look at the person

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