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    Default John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Dear friends,

    When a man has had several wives in his life he might have several children born by different wives. Which preposition or particle should I use to say this: "to" or "by"?

    John is his son to/by his wife Maria

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    How about "with"?

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    How about "with"?
    Thanks!!!

    Never heard about "with" in this context. You suggest "John is his son with his wife Maria"? How about "to" and "by" instead of "with"?

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Quote Originally Posted by milan2003_07 View Post
    Thanks!!!

    Never heard about "with" in this context. You suggest "John is his son with his wife Maria"? How about "to" and "by" instead of "with"?
    If they are together use "with", as SoothingDave suggests. If Maria is a former wife and John has other children with his present wife, I'd use "by".

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    If they are together use "with", as SoothingDave suggests. If Maria is a former wife and John has other children with his present wife, I'd use "by".
    It's all clear now. I was speaking about the situation when he and his wife has already divorced and he has another woman now. Tell me please does the sentence "John is his son to his wife Maria" make any sense to you or it's grammatically incorrect?

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Quote Originally Posted by milan2003_07 View Post
    It's all clear now. I was speaking about the situation when he and his wife has already divorced and he has another woman now. Tell me please does the sentence "John is his son to his wife Maria" make any sense to you or it's grammatically incorrect?

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    If John has a son called John "by" is correct.

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Even when there's an ex-wife, you still had the son "with" her. (Unless that is why you are divorced!)

    I think "by" is OK for ex-wives, but don't think "with" is wrong.

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Even when there's an ex-wife, you still had the son "with" her. (Unless that is why you are divorced!)

    I think "by" is OK for ex-wives, but don't think "with" is wrong.
    Now I can make a conclusion that both "with" and "by" are grammatically correct, but I think they still mean different things.

    John is his son by his wife Maria
    John is his son with his wife Maria

    What's the difference?

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria

    I don't see any difference in meaning. As long as you're talking about parentage and not location. Obviously if you point over there and say "that's my son by my wife" that's a whole different thing.

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    Default Re: John is his son to/by his wife Maria



    by
    used to indicate the husband or wife who is the parent of someone's child
    ▪ He had two daughters by his first wife and a son by his second wife. [=his first wife was the mother of his two daughters and his second wife was the mother of his son]
    ▪ She has two children by her first husband.

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