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    Do say in English;


    The reality of life will become tangible when you read books.

    Thank you so much for your reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arzgol View Post
    Do say in English;


    The reality of life will become tangible when you read books.

    Thank you so much for your reply.
    I'm not sure what your question is, but reading doesn't make anything tangible.

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    If I say,'' The reality of life in the totalitarian states becomes more tangible when you read Animal farm''.

    I mean you can feel something better when you read about it .

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    Default Re: tangible

    Ray is right, tangible means concrete, something you can touch. You can use it as a metaphor, but this is almost the opposite of the meaning of the word, a poor metaphor. You could use "apparent" or "clear" but not tangible.

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    Default Re: tangible

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    Ray is right, tangible means concrete, something you can touch.
    May I ask my small question here?
    My New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition states:
    "Anything that can be grasped, either with the hand or with the mind, is tangible."
    May I say then, taking into account this entry, (for example) that my ideas of some aspects of life have become tangible, meaning that my mind has managed to grasp them firmly (or that after reading some philosophical books the understanding of my own life became more tangible than it had been before)?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: tangible

    That is a good philosophical question, which enters into my specialty, intensional semantics.

    However, the second sense is metaphorical, in relation to the first. Tangible means "touchable" or something we can literally grasp, i.e. a material object.

    Intensonal philosophy identifies mental objects toward which we can turn our attention, and apprehend, such as the notion of colour or shape, as opposed to the actual colour or shape. If we refer to such notions as tangible, we are using the word metaphorically.

    In the OP's example, the reading of a text may allow a reader better to grasp a notion or concept, on an individual basis, but the notion or concept is not itself made more tangible in the process.

    It's a poor choice of words in this case, in my view. I'd suggest "palpable" if you must, but I still find I agree with Ray's general idea.

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    'Tangible' is perhaps another word that is literally [sic] going down the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    That is a good philosophical question, which enters into my specialty, intensional semantics.

    In the OP's example, the reading of a text may allow a reader better to grasp a notion or concept, on an individual basis, but the notion or concept is not itself made more tangible in the process.

    It's a poor choice of words in this case, in my view. I'd suggest "palpable" if you must, but I still find I agree with Ray's general idea.
    After thinking about this it seems this entry ("Anything that can be grasped, either with the hand or with the mind, is tangible.") isn't very precise in its definition. It seems that some concepts are tangible by their nature as bricks are tangible by their 'physical nature'. In other words some concepts are tangible because their essence involves tangibility. Consequently, we may assume that concepts are (were) created and exist outside of our mind.
    The aforesaid perfectly conforms with what Raymott said:
    [...] reading doesn't make anything tangible.
    but does not go along with what that entry states.
    If my mind does not grasp some concepts it does not mean that they are not tangible.

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