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    Help with the /ʧ/ sound

    Hi,

    Could someone help me with some words that have the sound /ʧ/ in between them. I am associating these words with pictures so that students can learn the meanings as they learn the word. These are a few words that I got: Armchair, Butcher, Cappuccino, Statue. Can you suggest four more?

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    Re: Help with the /ʧ/ sound

    archer, teacher, matches, torches,
    Remember that some speakers use /tj/ in statue.

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    Thank you, so much. Did you mean that statue is not a good example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orella View Post
    Thank you, so much. Did you mean that statue is not a good example?
    I would prefer examples in which the pronunciation is /ʧ/ for everyone. Possibly, being a /tj/ man myself, I am biased.

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    Thanks, that is a good thought and I am adopting that in to the word list that I am creating to teach sounds. Could you give me one another example too with the sound /ʧ/ in the middle of the word.

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    merchant, orchard, feature, gesture, posture, mischief, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure, pilchard, richer, wretched,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mara_ce View Post
    merchant, orchard, feature, gesture, posture, mischief, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure, pilchard, richer, wretched,
    All the '-ture' ones are excluded by a related version of 5jj's objection. In a greenhouse once I saw a pitcher plant and pointed to it, saying 'Look - that's pretty as a pitcher'. But the pun wasn't very good, because that's not how I pronounce 'picture'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    All the '-ture' ones are excluded by a related version of 5jj's objection.
    Gimson gives the examples "ture" as word-medial (intervocalic or consonant preceeding).

    Daniel Jonesdictionary shows "picture" with the /ʧ/ sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mara_ce View Post
    Gimson gives the examples "ture" as word-medial (intervocalic or consonant preceeding).

    Daniel Jonesdictionary shows "picture" with the /ʧ/ sound.
    Maybe so, but I didn't learn to speak from a reference book Like 5jj, I'm a /tjǝ/ man; and there are many many of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Maybe so, but I didn't learn to speak from a reference book Like 5jj, I'm a /tjǝ/ man; and there are many many of us.
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    I see, you both belong to the very careful speakers that Gimson mentions.

    Variants. Some very careful speakers, however, use /t/ and /d/ + /j/ in words which otherwise frequently have /ʧ/ or /dʒ/, e.g. gesture, culture, virtue, statue, righteous, fortune, literature, question, posture, Christian, soldier, grandeur.” (Gimson)
    Last edited by mara_ce; 04-Aug-2011 at 16:04. Reason: Personal opinion deleted after reading the first post again. :)

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