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    i dont know phonetics language.please help me

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    Quote Originally Posted by manjucather View Post
    i dont know phonetics language.please help me
    The main phonetic language is IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet). You can search for that on the web. There are many pages, but the official page is the IPA (IP Association) page.

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    First of all, you have to choose one language to learn, either American English or British English, otherwise you will get confused. There're tiny little difference between them.

    In my humble opinion, I think IPA is not that prefect for learning English, it's not quite clear and effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylviawiseman View Post
    First of all, you have to choose one language to learn, either American English or British English, otherwise you will get confused. There're tiny little difference between them.
    No, you can learn IPA without knowing about American and British English at all.

    In my humble opinion, I think IPA is not that prefect for learning English, it's not quite clear and effective.
    But surely it's better than something like "I would say /mi‛ly‛n/ or some people said /milii‛n/"?This can only be understood if everyone knows what /i/ means, and which of the three sounds in /milii‛n/ you mean by each instance of /i/.
    Using IPA - /mɪlijən/ there are three different symbols for the three different sounds, all of which youve transcribed as /i/.
    Yes, IPA is not perfect. What's your suggested alternative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manjucather View Post
    i dont know phonetics language.please help me
    Hey, Is phonetics symbol really all GREEK to you?
    I think you might learn a thing or two after going through these websites.
    Sounds of English
    Phonetics: The sounds of American English
    Pronouncing English - Basic English, Lesson 7

    Feel free to ask any question if you still have problem pronouncing each sound. Regards!

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    These two don't help with phonetic symbols.

    Here are the standard symbols used for phonemes in British English:


    Consonants (Unvoiced consonants underlined)

    /p/: pat, hoping, stop; happy, shepherd
    /b/: bat, tribal rub; robbed, cupboard
    /m/: mat, timing, sum, lamb, summer, column
    /f/: fine, lifer, reef; coffer,laugh, often, elephant
    /v/: vine, savings, spiv; of, skivvy, Stephen,
    /θ/: thick, author, mouth (noun)
    //:they, withinmouth (verb)
    /t/: ten, later, not; patter, ptomaine, night, subtle, stopped, two, Thomas, worked
    /d/: dot, rider, nod; bladder, red
    /n/: not, finer, ten; banner, knight, reign, pneumonia, Wednesday
    /s/: sit, basin, gas; massive, cede, science, psychology, listen, answer, waltz (some speakers)
    /z/: zone, hazy, fez; buzz, rose, xylophone, crescent, dessert
    /ʧ/: chin, perching, larch; hatch, nature, cello
    /ʤ/: gin, judge, strange, sandwich,gradual, exaggerate,
    /ʃ/: shout, washing, dish, machine, passion, delicious, caution, sugar, conscience, schedule (some speakers)
    /ʒ/: genre, rouging, beige; measure, seizure
    /k/: kit, baker, took; cot, succour, back, pique, character, saccharine racquet
    /g/: got, begin, sag; bigger, ghost, league, guest
    /ŋ/: sing, hanger, sink
    /h/: has, behind, who
    /r/: read, horror, write, rhyme, catarrhal
    /l/: lead, solo, pool; poll, island

    Vowels
    /i:/: me, bead, key, see, deceive, people, quay, encyclopaedia, foetus, police, relieve, soliloquy, Yves
    /I/: bid, Greenwich, hymn, luggage, mountain, pretty, wanted, women, sieve, busy. foreign,
    /ʊ/: look, put, woman Worcester
    /u:/: booed, boot, through, true, truth, whose, route, new, lieu manoeuvre
    /e/: bed, said, head, any, leisure, leopard, friend
    /ə/: about, the, teacher*, ration, Russia, photography, cemetery, thorough, bureaucrat, , station, patient pigeon, gorgeous, gynaecology. forget failure, status, tortoise, famous,
    /ɜ:/: bird, burred, turn, herd, heard, myrtle, myrrh, worse, masseuse connoisseur, journalist oeuvre,
    /ɔ:/: bored, board, broad, thought, law, awe, caught, fall, warm, George
    //: bad, plaid
    /ʌ/: bud, rough, money, flourish, flood, does
    /ɑ:/: bard, barred, father, aunt, heart, clerk, catarrh, palm reservoir
    /ɒ/: bod, cough, want, because, knowledge, sausage, geography


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    Diphthongs

    /Iə/: beard, leer, fierce, weird, here, Liam, idea
    /ʊə/: (Many speakers do not utter this, using /ɔ:/ instead, especially in such words as those underlined):obscure, tour, sure, moor
    /
    /: bare, there, air, wear, where aeroplane
    /eI/: bayed, say, make, weigh, main, vein, break, gauge, ballet, they, gaol /ɔI/: buoyed, buoy, boy, coil, (Schadenfreude)
    /aI/: bide, nigh, lie, buy, by, eye, aisle, height, choir
    /əʊ/: bode, know, although, oh, groan, beau, gauche, Cockburn: brooch chauffeur
    //:
    cow, mound, bough, Faust, cowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post

    These two don't help with phonetic symbols.

    Here are the standard symbols used for phonemes in British English:


    Consonants (Unvoiced consonants underlined)

    /p/: pat, hoping, stop; happy, shepherd
    /b/: bat, tribal rub; robbed, cupboard
    /m/: mat, timing, sum, lamb, summer, column
    /f/: fine, lifer, reef; coffer,laugh, often, elephant
    /v/: vine, savings, spiv; of, skivvy, Stephen,
    /θ/: thick, author, mouth (noun)
    //:they, withinmouth (verb)
    /t/: ten, later, not; patter, ptomaine, night, subtle, stopped, two, Thomas, worked
    /d/: dot, rider, nod; bladder, red
    /n/: not, finer, ten; banner, knight, reign, pneumonia, Wednesday
    /s/: sit, basin, gas; massive, cede, science, psychology, listen, answer, waltz (some speakers)
    /z/: zone, hazy, fez; buzz, rose, xylophone, crescent, dessert
    /ʧ/: chin, perching, larch; hatch, nature, cello
    /ʤ/: gin, judge, strange, sandwich,gradual, exaggerate,
    /ʃ/: shout, washing, dish, machine, passion, delicious, caution, sugar, conscience, schedule (some speakers)
    /ʒ/: genre, rouging, beige; measure, seizure
    /k/: kit, baker, took; cot, succour, back, pique, character, saccharine racquet
    /g/: got, begin, sag; bigger, ghost, league, guest
    /ŋ/: sing, hanger, sink
    /h/: has, behind, who
    /r/: read, horror, write, rhyme, catarrhal
    /l/: lead, solo, pool; poll, island

    Vowels
    /i:/: me, bead, key, see, deceive, people, quay, encyclopaedia, foetus, police, relieve, soliloquy, Yves
    /I/: bid, Greenwich, hymn, luggage, mountain, pretty, wanted, women, sieve, busy. foreign,
    /ʊ/: look, put, woman Worcester
    /u:/: booed, boot, through, true, truth, whose, route, new, lieu manoeuvre
    /e/: bed, said, head, any, leisure, leopard, friend
    /ə/: about, the, teacher*, ration, Russia, photography, cemetery, thorough, bureaucrat, , station, patient pigeon, gorgeous, gynaecology. forget failure, status, tortoise, famous,
    /ɜ:/: bird, burred, turn, herd, heard, myrtle, myrrh, worse, masseuse connoisseur, journalist oeuvre,
    /ɔ:/: bored, board, broad, thought, law, awe, caught, fall, warm, George
    //: bad, plaid
    /ʌ/: bud, rough, money, flourish, flood, does
    /ɑ:/: bard, barred, father, aunt, heart, clerk, catarrh, palm reservoir
    /ɒ/: bod, cough, want, because, knowledge, sausage, geography

    Well, I stand corrected. By the way, I think your phonetics symbol list doesn't really help much as he doesn't know a thing or two about phonetics by any chance. I think that'd be awesome if he could be taught by native speaker in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontBanMe View Post
    . By the way, I think your phonetics symbol list doesn't really help much as he doesn't know a thing or two about phonetics by any chance.
    If he knows one or two of the example words I have provided, then there is no problem.

    There is no real need to QUOTE long posts if you are not going to use them.

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