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    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
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    (1) Teachers Bennevis and Fivejedjon have given us learners excellent answers.

    (2) I think that I may (repeat: may) understand your problem.

    (3) Today in the year 2011, the word "except" is considered a preposition. As

    you already know from your studies, after a preposition, you always use the

    object form (such as me, him, her, us, them):

    Everybody went except me.
    She did it for me.
    They went with me.

    (4) Congratulations! In your first post, you said that you felt the correct answer was

    "me." You were correct!

    (5) BUT many, many years ago, it was good English to use "I." Many years ago,

    some people felt that "except" was a conjunction. So many years ago, you could

    say "Everyone went except I (did not go).

    Maybe your friends were reading an old grammar book. That is why they told you to

    use "I."

    (a) Here is an example from the great grammarian George O. Curme:

    Everyone except me seems to dislike him. / Everyone except I seems to dislike him.

    The great professor's book was published in 1931. He said that "me" was then

    "more common."

    (6) I think that we learners should follow Teachers Bennevis and Fivejedjon's advice

    and use "me" -- just as you said in your first post.


    You are a fantastic teacher

    but i`m afraid to tell you that our English in school is old too from oxford in the year 2001 and the exam still from the same book so what should i do

    i will discuss this with my teacher thank you
    and my puncituation is bad because the internet language like u and not you
    sorry i will study it again thank you all

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    Default Re: I or me

    Quote Originally Posted by ricolding View Post
    You are a fantastic teacher

    but i`m afraid to tell you that our English in school is old too from oxford in the year 2001 and the exam still from the same book so what should i do

    i will discuss this with my teacher thank you
    and my puncituation is bad because the internet language like u and not you
    sorry i will study it again thank you all
    I cannot speak for the other teachers but I will not be answering any more of your queries until you start to capitalise and punctuate. We do not use "internet language" or "textspeak" here. We use correct English. That is why this forum exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I cannot speak for the other teachers but I will not be answering any more of your queries until you start to capitalise and punctuate. We do not use "internet language" or "textspeak" here. We use correct English. That is why this forum exists.
    You are speaking for me. Thank you.

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    Default Re: I or me

    [QUOTE=ricolding;790893]



    i will discuss this with my teacher thank you


    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) Thank you for your kind note.

    (2) Yes, I agree that you should discuss this with your teacher. Good

    teachers are always happy to know whether they are mistaken about

    something.

    (3) Of course, I know that you will be very respectful of your teacher when

    you speak with him/her. You might want to print out this thread and give

    your teacher a copy. Above all, do not tell your teacher that he/she is

    "wrong" if he/she thinks the correct answer is "I." Just tell your teacher that

    you want to earn good marks in his/her class and that you were advised by

    an outstanding English helpline on the Web that the correct answer is "me."

    (Then respectfully give a copy of this thread.)

    (4) Best of luck to you. Whenever you have other questions about English

    grammar, many teachers and non-teachers here will be happy to help you.

    P.S. Of course, do not give your teacher a copy of this post.

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    Default Re: I or me

    In egypt the exam is general i mean every student will have a one exam and not my teacher who will test me

    Ok i will till him that thank you

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    Default Re: I or me

    Do you think it would be a good idea to use 'else' in the sentence? "Everyone else except me went to the party". By doing so we would be removing a logical conflict between 'everyone' and 'except me'.

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    Default Re: I or me

    Quote Originally Posted by ricolding View Post
    In egypt the exam is general i mean every student will have a one exam and not my teacher who will test me

    Ok i will till him that thank you

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) Yes, that is a problem. If all students in the country take the same test, and the

    test is prepared by some teachers who think that "I" is the correct answer, then

    you will receive lower marks on the test if you choose the correct answer of

    "me."

    (2) Do ask your teacher for advice on what to do.

    (3) I have heard that this happens in other countries, too. The national test on

    English grammar may be prepared by excellent teachers who may not completely

    understand English grammar. As a result, they may require wrong answers. That is

    very unfair to students.

    (4) Of course, maybe the national test in your country does accept "me" as the

    correct answer. Hopefully, your teacher can give you -- and the other students ---

    some advice if the test has an "except" question.

    (5) After you take the test, let us know if there was an "except" question.

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    Default Re: I or me

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) Yes, that is a problem. If all students in the country take the same test, and the

    test is prepared by some teachers who think that "I" is the correct answer, then

    you will receive lower marks on the test if you choose the correct answer of

    "me."

    (2) Do ask your teacher for advice on what to do.

    (3) I have heard that this happens in other countries, too. The national test on

    English grammar may be prepared by excellent teachers who may not completely

    understand English grammar. As a result, they may require wrong answers. That is

    very unfair to students.

    (4) Of course, maybe the national test in your country does accept "me" as the

    correct answer. Hopefully, your teacher can give you -- and the other students ---

    some advice if the test has an "except" question.

    (5) After you take the test, let us know if there was an "except" question.

    It is not for "except" question the problem is that who make the exam i a very old teacher so he may answer it (I) or any other question and it is a one test not many tests
    only one test and u have to get high marks to join the college you want

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    Default Re: I or me

    Quote Originally Posted by ricolding View Post
    It is not for "except" question the problem is that who make the exam i a very old teacher so he may answer it (I) or any other question and it is a one test not many tests
    only one test and u have to get high marks to join the college you want

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) Yes, I understand.

    (2) Here in the United States, students have many opportunities to enter college.

    Even students with poor marks can always find a college that will accept them.

    (3) I have read that it is different in many other countries. If a student does not

    do well on a national test, s/he loses any chance of college.

    (4) I understand the pressure you are under.

    (5) I wish you great success on the national test.

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