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    Only 50 persons/people are allowed to go on this pilgrimage.

    This is my own sentence. I think I should use 'persons', but is 'people' the wrong word?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    'People' is more natural; 'persons' sounds legalistic.

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    Most native English speakers go through their entire lives without feeling it necessary to use persons rather than people.

    Rover

    EDIT: on reflection, the marriage ceremony often still contains the words 'I call upon these persons here present. . .'
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 23-Sep-2011 at 09:42.

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    EDIT: on reflection, the marriage ceremony often still contains the words 'I call upon these persons here present. . .'


    The persons can thought of as individuals, not part of a group, can't they?

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    Quote Originally Posted by sunsunmoon View Post


    The persons can thought of as individuals, not part of a group, can't they?
    Yes, they can.

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    Quote Originally Posted by sunsunmoon View Post


    The persons can thought of as individuals, not part of a group, can't they?
    Yes.

    So can people.

    Rover

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    ...use 'people' to refer to a group, and use 'persons' to refer to the individual members of a group.
    (From http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/as...ns-people.html)


    Could I ask for a detailed explanation?

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    Default Re: 50 persons/people are allowed...

    Quote Originally Posted by sunsunmoon View Post
    Could I ask for a detailed explanation?
    ou'd have to ask Casiopea . I don't think it's very helpful.

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