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    Default I don't give a penny/damn

    Hello
    Do "I don't give a penny, I don't give a damn sh*t" have the same meaning? means I don't care.
    Is using "do" in this question correct?
    Thank you

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    Quote Originally Posted by Over the top View Post
    Hello
    Do "I don't give a penny, I don't give a damn sh*t" have the same meaning? means I don't care.
    Is using "do" in this question correct?
    Thank you
    "Do" is correct.

    I've never heard of "I don't give a penny", nor "I don't give a damn sh*t".

    In BrE, we use:

    I don't give a damn.
    I don't give a sh*t.
    I don't give a f*ck.
    I don't give a flying f*ck.
    I couldn't care less. (Note, in AmE this is "I could care less"!)
    I don't care.

    Apologies for the number of asterisks required above but rather a lot of the phrases for "I don't care" are rather rude!

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    And some argue that it was originally I don't give a dam - suggesting that it is a reference to a Indian coin of little value - though this spelling is almost never used now.

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    A politer version I use is "I don't give a flying fish."

    The "I could care less" has never made sense to me. We say both "could" and "couldn't" here, but I personal don't use the "could" version. It's illogical.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    *** NOT A TEACHER ***


    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I don't give a sh*t.
    Alternatively, sometimes I write, "I don't give a whit", leaving the reader wonder whether I made a typo (S and W are adjacent on the keyboard), or it is actually what I wanted to write. I hope this ("I don't give a whit.") works.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I couldn't care less. (Note, in AmE this is "I could care less"!)
    ...which is absolutely illogical, IMHO.

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    Please allow me two questions:

    1) Is there any sort of difference between "I don't give a damn <clause>" and "I don't give a damn about <clause> (For example, "I don't give a damn (about) what she thinks.") Or is "about" only used when "I don't give a damn" is followed by a noun?


    2) Errr, as for the original question, would "I don't give a sodding (instead of "damn") shit" work in BrE?

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    A politer version I use is "I don't give a flying fish."
    The flying fish version is new to me.


    People used to say I couldn't give atuppenny dam(n) in BrE, though I haven't heard it in a long time.

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    My flying fish version is a personal use. There is such a creature, and it's similar enough in sound to flying f*** that people get what I mean, but unexepected enough to be amusing.
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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Mav~ View Post
    *** NOT A TEACHER ***

    Please allow me two questions:

    1) Is there any sort of difference between "I don't give a damn <clause>" and "I don't give a damn about <clause> (For example, "I don't give a damn (about) what she thinks.") Or is "about" only used when "I don't give a damn" is followed by a noun?


    2) Errr, as for the original question, would "I don't give a sodding (instead of "damn") shit" work in BrE?
    1) I don't give a damn.
    I don't give a damn what she thinks.
    I don't give a damn about the environment.

    2) You need to use some asterisks!!! I can't say I've ever used "I don't give a s*dding sh*t" but I don't see why you couldn't.

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    2- It does work, but s*dding is less used nowadays IMO, so it sounds a bit odd.

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    Default Re: I don't give a penny/damn

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    2- It does work, but s*dding is less used nowadays IMO, so it sounds a bit odd.
    I use it quite a lot but only in "Oh, s*dding hell, my computer's crashed again!" or similar.

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