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    #11

    Re: Accent reduction (aiming at standard BE/RP)

    Hi, emka.

    My accent is a mix as well and I think it's impossible for me to fix it now. I admire you ambition.

    I know little about accent reduction so my advice may be naive, but have you tried exposing yourself to RP as much as possible? There are plenty of interesting films with RP-speaking actors in them. After watching a couple of such films, I find my accent closer to RP. I'm sure it cannot be as effective as hiring a specialist but I do believe it could do the job in the long run.

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    #12

    Re: Accent reduction (aiming at standard BE/RP)

    Hi birdeen,

    I haven't had much opportunity to watch British films but will also try this avenue. So far I have only watched BBC news occasionally.

    Another, rather technical question: how do private messages work on this forum? Or sending e-mail to members? I can't find the respective buttons anywhere (not in the User CP section, and no e-mail button in the post window either).
    I would like to contact you - but it's a general question too.

    Thanks.
    Emka

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    #13

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    You need to have posted a certain number of messages before you can PM people. I think it's ten.

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    #14

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    Aha. Then I should probably waffle on a bit more and make another five posts. Thatís not a problem, as Iím not the person to run out of new aspects. Itís a bit like the good old rule for composition writing: new idea, new paragraph.

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    #15

    Re: Accent reduction (aiming at standard BE/RP)

    Iíve been getting some new input from people who work in related fields: not ESL but also voice coaching (speech) or even vocal training (singing). I think they have a few valid points, but it also makes my goal even more difficult to achieve.

    While for many people the main problem with pronunciation is that they donít pronounce particular sounds correctly, this is a minor problem for me. Itís the ďmelodyĒ of English, i.e. the intonation patterns and how phrases/chunks of a sentence are stressed or glided over. These speech patterns seem so deeply ingrained in my L1 that I canít unlearn the German melody to pick up a different one.

    (to be continued in my next bump-up post)

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    The advice I got is that it might be helpful to first undergo some voice coaching, i.e. to become aware of my voice production tract; to learn about posture; to learn how to breathe correctly; to learn relaxation techniques that make the muscles around the throat and the mouth more flexible. While this is not specific to any language Ė and I agree that I would also benefit from this in my L1 Ė it just seems to make the whole project even more complex and financially impossible.

    But I can see the connection between voice production and awareness of how it all works together, and the positive influence of it on subsequent accent reduction/pronunciation training.

    (to be continued)

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    #17

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    That person Ė a voice and accent coach who trains actors Ė also said that in order to produce correct sounds in the target language and, especially, a (close to) natural sounding ďmelodyĒ, one needs to have a musical ear. Sounds logical: you canít reproduce what you donít hear. So his advice was to consider taking singing lessons or join a choir to train up my (unfortunately non-existent) musical ear, which would then make it much easier for me to listen for, hear and reproduce the British speech melody.


    (to be continued)

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    #18

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    Just one more and I will have clocked up ten posts!

    So, basically, I would need a voice coach, a singing teacher, and then an accent reduction coach. Or one Jack of all Trades, a person I am unlikely to find. Insofar the input I have received was both interesting and certainly well substantiated, but it was rather sobering too.

    Maybe I shouldnít feel overwhelmed by the huge challenge but should start with small, manageable steps. The first one I have decided on is to brush up on IPA, something I have learned sometime during my university years but never really used again.

    (And now I am going to check my User CP for any new buttons/functionalities)

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    #19

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    I need 15 posts. After ten I can only send PMs to a few people, probably the moderators.
    Well, I won't inflate my posts by another five yet because I don't want to become a nuisance.
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    #20

    Re: Accent reduction (aiming at standard BE/RP)

    hi

    any one interested to talk in English to practise improve accent. I will welcome any one even on phone .
    Thanks

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