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    Default Re: need clarification vs to be clarified

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    I believe we discussed this very utterance a couple weeks ago.

    It sounds OK to me this way. Perhaps this type of use will become standard.
    Sorry for being the pain in the...... In his address "needs done" is non-standart, right?

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    Default Re: need clarification vs to be clarified

    In my opinion, yes it is non-standard.
    Last edited by SoothingDave; 03-Nov-2011 at 15:29.

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    Default Re: need clarification vs to be clarified

    This is a personal opinion - I haven't checked in my library. I understand SoothingDave's point, but I feel that this usage is probably universally accepted now. I would probably always use the 'to be', but I am not 100% certain of that.

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    Default Re: need clarification vs to be clarified

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    "............doing the work that America needs done."? It's an extract from the Barack Obama's address. Why would the speaker use here "needs done" not "needs to be done"? I can give you the whole sentence, if you need.
    "Needs done" is ok in this context. "...doing the work that America needs to be done" makes no sense to me. Either "...that America needs to do" or "..that America needs to have done" would also work in this context.

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