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    Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Do you have any rule in pronunciation which says: if in a word we have a consonant letter between two vowels like "nature" the first vowel is usually pronounced like its name in alphabet, for example the letter "a" in "nature" is pronounced "ey" which is the pronunciation of "a" in alphabet.
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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    Do you have any rule in pronunciation which says: if in a word we have a consonant letter between two vowels like "nature" the first vowel is usually pronounced like its name in alphabet, for example the letter "a" in "nature" is pronounced "ey" which is the pronunciation of "a" in alphabet.
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    Atabitaraf, I don't think it's a rule worthy of your attention. It's not a completely wrong rule but it won't help you learn to pronounce English words correctly. The word "usually" in this rule is very vague. How often is it?

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    Atabitaraf, I don't think it's a rule worthy of your attention. It's not a completely wrong rule but it won't help you learn to pronounce English words correctly. The word "usually" in this rule is very vague. How often is it?
    We have a rule which says for one syllable words if the last vowel is long so there should be one "e" at the end of the word say (make, lake, etc) but if the last vowel is small there shouldn't be such "e" say (big, rig, fig, lack, etc)
    The word "usually" is one of the confirming examples of the first dubious rule I mentioned because the first u is pronounced "yu" like its name in alphabet.

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    How about unimportant?

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    How about unimportant?
    I don't know the exact rule but it is said to be not correct about combined words.

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    I don't know the exact rule but it is said to be not correct about combined words.
    How about "rule"?

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    How about "rule"?
    I think there is no rule in pronunciation which works without an exception but it should work most of the time, although your finding is appreciable.
    My question is that have you ever seen any of these rules I've mentioned so far?

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    I think there is no rule in pronunciation which works without an exception but it should work most of the time, although your finding is appreciable.
    My question is that have you ever seen any of these rules I've mentioned so far?
    I have seen similar rules, yes. But, as I said, I doubt their utility. What is the use of such a rule for a learner? If a rule has just a couple of exceptions, it can be useful. This rule seems impossible to be simple and reliable at the same time, however you will phrase it.

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    Do you have any rule in pronunciation which says: if in a word we have a consonant letter between two vowels like "nature" the first vowel is usually pronounced like its name in alphabet, for example the letter "a" in "nature" is pronounced "ey" which is the pronunciation of "a" in alphabet.
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    No, it's impossible. If you give 'nature', I can give 'mature', in which the /a/ is pronounced differently, as a schwa. I agree with the others - forget it.

    But, the rule about "bit" being short and "bite" being long is a good one, as a guide.

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    Re: Pronunciation Rules if there is any?

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    Do you have any rule in pronunciation which says: if in a word we have a consonant letter between two vowels like "nature" the first vowel is usually pronounced like its name in alphabet, for example the letter "a" in "nature" is pronounced "ey" which is the pronunciation of "a" in alphabet.
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    If you add the element of stress, you can come up with rules. Without stress, it is all wild west.

    'na-ture (ay)
    ma-'ture (schwa)
    litera-,ture (schwa)
    tempera-,ture (schwa)

    If you got aCture pattern, you hear CAT vowel

    'frac-ture
    de;'par-ture

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