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    Re: Sentence correction

    Thank you.

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    Re: Sentence correction

    Someone with a better understanding of "why" may still answer this, but the short answer is "No, you cannot take every transitive verb and use the particple form as a pre-modifying adjective."

    If the action leaves the items in a changed state, it is possible.

    I smashed the vase. I cleaned up the smashed vase. The vase was in a "state" of being smashed.

    I frightend the people. The frightened people cried. The people were in a "state" of being frightened.

    However, if I bump into someone, they don't continue in a state of "bumped." They are not changed by the process of bumping. You wouldn't write "The bumped person complained loudly."

    However, if a bump into someone hard enough that they fall down and are injured, being injured is now a state. "I bumped into someone and he fell, banging his elbow quite hard. However, the injured man was quite gracious when I apologized."

    A buidling, once stormed, doesn't continue in a state of being stormed. It's a momentary action. It could be damaged, or ravaged, or destroyed, but the momentary action of storming it does not create a "stormed" condition. It can created a damaged buidling.

    There are some cases where it will be obvious that the verb and the resulting state are the same (ripped, injured, etc.) There will be some where it's obvious that they are not the same. And there will be many in the middle when you may have to ask a native speaker if it sounds natural.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Sentence correction

    [QUOTE=onkar;830083]i am writing a script for Hollywood movie
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    (1) Thank you for your kind note.

    (a) Please study the post written by the moderator. It has some very important

    advice.

    (i) You can always post a question here whenever you want to know whether a

    particular past participle can be used as an adjective.

    (ii) Good luck on your script. I hope that it is a great success.

    (iii) I am an old man. I do not know what Facebook is and I do not want to know.

    I am sure, however, that you can meet many Americans on Facebook, and they

    can help you with your script.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
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    Re: Sentence correction

    Very very thank you
    you solved my almost half of the problem.one more request
    Can i write this sentence
    1- I saw a building stormed by police
    which one of following is wrong (participle of transitive verb used with noun in sentence)
    2- offered price
    3- asked question
    4-left things
    5-submitted paper
    6- Badged policemen

    Tell me above participial used as adjective with noun is correct .can we use them in sentence.

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    Re: Sentence correction

    Quote Originally Posted by onkar View Post
    Very very thank you
    you solved my almost half of the problem.one more request
    Can i write this sentence
    1- I saw a building stormed by police
    which one of following is wrong (participle of transitive verb used with noun in sentence)
    2- offered price
    3- asked question
    4-left things
    5-submitted paper
    6- Badged policemen

    Tell me above participial used as adjective with noun is correct .can we use them in sentence.
    2 is a bit jargon-y to me. I'd prefer "the price offered." As in The price offered was less than what I was willing to sell it for, so I took it off the market."

    3 I find unnatural, except in a case when you are contrasting it with the "unasked" question. Even so, I'd reverse the order: The question asked was not as important to her as the questions left unasked.

    4 if you mean things someone left behind, no.

    5 maybe - I'd still be likely to say "The paper she submitted."

    6 not "badged" but "uniformed policeman" would be okay.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Sentence correction

    [QUOTE=onkar;830168]
    Can i write this sentence
    1- I saw a building stormed by police
    which one of following is wrong (participle of transitive verb used with noun in sentence)
    2- offered price
    3- asked question
    4-left things
    5-submitted paper
    6- Badged policemen


    NOT A TEACHER


    (1) I shall start the discussion, and hopefully a teacher will soon answer you.

    (2) These comments are only my opinions. The teachers will give you real

    answers.

    (3) In my opinion, "I saw a building stormed by the police" is perfect. It is simply a short way to write "I saw a building [that was/ had been] stormed by the police.

    (4) IMO. I think this is OK: "I did not sell my house, because the offered price was too low.

    (5) IMO, I do not think you can refer to the "asked question."

    (6) IMO, I do not think that you can refer to the "left things."

    (7) IMO, I think this is OK: The manager will read all the submitted papers and then announce her decision.

    (8) IMO, I do not think that you can refer to "badged police officers."

    EDIT: While I was typing, the moderator gave you the answers.

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    Re: Sentence correction

    Thanks,now i am satisfied .now in future if i will post problem if i have any problem regarding it.

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