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    Default whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Dear all,


    Is " in contrast/ in the other hand" really essential after "whereas" in this sentence ?

    Doctorsí salaries have risen substantially, whereas in contrast/ in the other hand nursesí pay has actually fallen.

    Is there any meaning difference if the " in contrast/ in the other hand" is deleted ?
    Is extra " in contrast/ in the other hand" making the sentence wordy ?

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    'in contrast/on the other hand' are always redundant after 'whereas'.

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Thanks for your answer.

    Is this kind of redundancy is common in spoken English ?

    Written academic English ?

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Thanks for your answer.

    Is this kind of redundancy is common in spoken English ? Delete "is"

    Written academic English ?

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    It's unlikely to be common in written academic English.

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Thanks for your reply.

    How common is redundancy is informal spoken English ?

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    How common is redundancy is informal spoken English ?
    In my opinion, I'd say, personally, I think, generally speaking, it's usually quite common, at least, normally.
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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Doctorsí salaries have risen substantially, while nursesí pay has actually fallen.
    How about a simple "while."

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Thanks a lot for your answer.

    Why do native speakers use a lot of redundancy ?
    What is the function of redundancy ?

    To all teachers,

    Should English learning student speak with redundancy too ?

    Many thanks

    Merry Christmas and happy New Year !

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    Default Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Thanks a lot for your answer.

    Why do native speakers use a lot of redundancy ? Because when we talk, we don't plan what we are going to say, so we often end up with redundancy.

    What is the function of redundancy ? When it's intential, it's to add emphasis. "Well, personally, I think..." it to emphasize that it's your own opinion and not necessarily shared by many, or even anyone else.

    To all teachers,

    Should English learning student speak with redundancy too ? No, not unless it's to add emphasis. Examles like "whereas on the other hand" are NOT good style.

    Many thanks

    Merry Christmas and happy New Year !
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