Results 1 to 9 of 9
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • Indonesian
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Indonesia

    • Join Date: May 2010
    • Posts: 309
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #1

    whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Dear all,


    Is " in contrast/ in the other hand" really essential after "whereas" in this sentence ?

    Doctorsí salaries have risen substantially, whereas in contrast/ in the other hand nursesí pay has actually fallen.

    Is there any meaning difference if the " in contrast/ in the other hand" is deleted ?
    Is extra " in contrast/ in the other hand" making the sentence wordy ?

    Many thanks

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Retired English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • England

    • Join Date: Jun 2010
    • Posts: 16,025
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #2

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    'in contrast/on the other hand' are always redundant after 'whereas'.

    Rover

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • Indonesian
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Indonesia

    • Join Date: May 2010
    • Posts: 309
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #3

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Thanks for your answer.

    Is this kind of redundancy is common in spoken English ?

    Written academic English ?

    Many thanks

  1. bhaisahab's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Retired English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • England

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 23,077
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #4

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Thanks for your answer.

    Is this kind of redundancy is common in spoken English ? Delete "is"

    Written academic English ?

    Many thanks
    It's unlikely to be common in written academic English.

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • Indonesian
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Indonesia

    • Join Date: May 2010
    • Posts: 309
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #5

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Thanks for your reply.

    How common is redundancy is informal spoken English ?

    Many thanks

  2. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Retired English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,167
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #6

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    How common is redundancy is informal spoken English ?
    In my opinion, I'd say, personally, I think, generally speaking, it's usually quite common, at least, normally.

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Interested in Language
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Apr 2009
    • Posts: 10,369
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #7

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Doctorsí salaries have risen substantially, while nursesí pay has actually fallen.
    How about a simple "while."

    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • Indonesian
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Indonesia

    • Join Date: May 2010
    • Posts: 309
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #8

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Thanks a lot for your answer.

    Why do native speakers use a lot of redundancy ?
    What is the function of redundancy ?

    To all teachers,

    Should English learning student speak with redundancy too ?

    Many thanks

    Merry Christmas and happy New Year !

  3. Barb_D's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Mar 2007
    • Posts: 17,555
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #9

    Re: whereas + in contrast/ on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Thanks a lot for your answer.

    Why do native speakers use a lot of redundancy ? Because when we talk, we don't plan what we are going to say, so we often end up with redundancy.

    What is the function of redundancy ? When it's intential, it's to add emphasis. "Well, personally, I think..." it to emphasize that it's your own opinion and not necessarily shared by many, or even anyone else.

    To all teachers,

    Should English learning student speak with redundancy too ? No, not unless it's to add emphasis. Examles like "whereas on the other hand" are NOT good style.

    Many thanks

    Merry Christmas and happy New Year !
    Happy holidays to you, too.

    Note that punctuation marks come immediately after the last letter. You've been leaving a space.

    Like this.
    Not like this .
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

Similar Threads

  1. By Contrast vs. In Contrast
    By Allen165 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 24-Apr-2011, 09:23
  2. contrast
    By sash2008 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-May-2009, 21:50
  3. work hand in hand
    By Tan Elaine in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 20-Feb-2009, 16:56
  4. contrast
    By mayclaire in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 26-Jul-2008, 14:56
  5. Hand in Hand vs. Hand in Glove
    By doobadoo in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-Oct-2006, 14:59

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •