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    provide that + feedback use

    Dear,
    1) Is it correct to use should with provided that

    e.g provided that a final report on the final results arrived at by the commitee shoudl be submitted on 13 December.

    * Should I only use present tenses.
    2) Is it cottect to say feed us back? or feed me back

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    Ur feedback is apprecited

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    provided that a final report on the final results arrived at by the commitee is submitted on 13 December.

    Note that this is not a complete sentence; a main clause is needed.

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    Thank you for the reply.

    Pls explain in general the use of provided that,

    1st:
    Is it correct to use it in the past and present?

    2nd :
    Another Q:

    Is it correct to say feed us back.



    Thanks,
    Ur reply is highly appreciated.

    Satti

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    Is it correct to say feed us back.
    I would not use this; I would say give us feedback.

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    [QUOTE=Mohamedsatti;836362]

    Pls explain in general the use of provided that,

    1st:
    Is it correct to use it in the past and present?


    NOT A TEACHER


    (1) You have asked a super difficult question. I, too, am waiting for a

    teacher to give us the answers.

    (2) I only wanted to add a few words:

    (a) Two brothers named H.W. Fowler and F.G. Fowler wrote a book many years ago

    (in 1906) entitled The King's English. They explained the correct use of "provided

    (that)." Their explanation is too difficult for me to understand well. If there is a good

    library near you, you might check it out. Look for "provided" in the index. The two

    brothers were upset because even The Times newspaper (in London) did not use the

    word correctly! (At that time, The Times was the newspaper read by the upper

    classes of England.)

    (b) There is, however, one sentence from their discussion that I DO understand. Here

    it is:

    "It can never be wrong to write if instead of provided: to write provided instead

    of if will generally be wrong."

    I think that this means in easy English:

    (a) If you are confused about using "if" or "provided (that)," always choose IF.

    (b) Be SUPER careful before you choose "provided (that)." Usually, the "correct"

    word will be "if" in most sentences.

    P.S. I am glad that you want to learn the proper use of "provided that." It is, indeed,

    a beautiful word. For example, I take a walk every day. When I am almost finished

    with my walk, I think to myself: Provided that I get home safely, I will have walked

    5 miles today. (I think that I have used "provided that" correctly. It also has a

    different meaning from "if" in my sentence, but I am not able to explain why.)

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    "It can never be wrong to write if instead of provided: to write provided instead of if will generally be wrong."

    I think that this means in easy English: (a) If you are confused about using "if" or "provided (that)," always choose IF.

    (b) Be SUPER careful before you choose "provided (that)." Usually, the "correct" word will be "if" in most sentences.

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    Post Re: provide that + feedback use

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    (a) Two brothers named H.W. Fowler and F.G. Fowler wrote a book many years ago (in 1906) entitled The King's English.They explained the correct use of "provided (that)."
    If there is a good library near you, you might check it out.
    You don't even need to go to a good library to read that excellent work!

    H.W. Fowler: The King’s English, 2nd ed.

    I hope this link proves to be useful for those who are interested in Mr. Fowler's priceless work but have not been able to put their hands on it so far.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    Their explanation is too difficult for me to understand well.
    You are not alone with this. If it's any consolation:

    Quote Originally Posted by An outstanding teacher on this forum;
    His (=Fowler's) language is at times almost impenetrable, but he was not writing for the masses; he was largely addressing himself to his intellectual equals - a rare breed.

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    [QUOTE=~Mav~;836934]



    You are not alone with this. If it's any consolation:


    NOT A TEACHER


    (1) Thanks for the great link.

    (2) Advanced students should definitely try reading it. Then they will understand why

    you and I go crazy trying to understand what he is saying.

    (3) A writer named Barbara Wallraff once commented that people who go to Fowler

    "for answers to their language questions deserve at least a gold star and possibly

    a medal."

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    Dear,
    Your feedback will be highly apprecaited
    What is the difference between :

    1) We were surprised
    and
    2) We have been surprised

    Best Regards,
    Satti

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    Re: provide that + feedback use

    I would hope that a "final" report would include the final results. Seems a bit redundant.

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