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    Post phrasal verb or idioms

    1. She was attractive and mildly diverting, but not nearly so challenging and exciting as this passionate mixture of femininity and feminism she was about to take off the trading block and brand as her own.
    2. She want to take off her clothes for him as much as he wanted to strip her.
    3. The aircraft took off.

    From those examples above, I need to know which one has idiomatic meaning. I still confused between phrasal verbs and Idioms

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    I have read a book that it says there are phrasal verbs have idiomatic meanings. It gives me take off as an example.Why don't we put take off as an idiom. I have seen the list of idioms from this website. I did not find take off in idioms list.

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    Can I put take off as an idiom?

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    The book which published in 1971 the title is Essential Idioms in English put take off in idiom list but in the book which published in 1983, the title is Idiom Drills did not put take off in idioms list. Then I read a book which published in 1988 the title is English Idiom put take off in idiom list but in kind of phrasal verb. Anybody know the reasons?..

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    There are tens of thousands of idiomatic expressions in English. There are hundreds of idiomatic multi-word/phrasal/prepositional/phrasal-prepositional verbs, and there is no universal agreement on what verbs are phrasal verbs. People compiling lists select ones that they think will be useful for learners to know.

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    Do you agree if I say the level of idiomatic expression is higher than phrasal verbs.

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    Quote Originally Posted by jebonfikri View Post
    Do you agree if I say the level of idiomatic expression is higher than phrasal verbs.
    That sentence does not mean much to me.

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    I still confused between phrasal verbs and Idioms


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    (1) Me, too!!!

    (2) I think that many of us ordinary speakers say that an idiom is

    like "walking on eggshells" (from your earlier thread).

    (3) And a phrasal verb is a verb with more than one word, such as "take off."

    If I said "The jet took at 4 p.m.," it would mean nothing. Obviously, I have to

    say "The jet took off at 4 p.m." Now that is a phrasal verb. Is it also an idiom?

    I do not know and I do not think it matters very much. I prefer to use the word

    "idiom" to refer to phrases such as "walking on eggshells."

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    Default Re: phrasal verb or idioms

    Yeah according to the meaning of Idiom it self. An Idiom can be phrasal verb, a phrasal verb not always has idiomatic meaning. So, in this case I think take off is an idiom and phrasal verb.

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