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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
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    d you put it in some digital form (email, tweet...)
    e you carve it on a desktop
    f you engrave it on a block of stone
    g you dictate a note into a tape recorder
    h you make a footprint in the cement before it dries
    ... the possibilities are endless.

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    Hi BobK,
    Thank you for your reply. I can see that the posibilities are endless, even in a funny way.

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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Hi Teachers,
    How about this one? Could you tell me if it is more appropriate?
    When you keep a record of something, you are preserving information regularly so that you can refer to it later.


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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Broadly (largamente) right, but I'm not sure what you mean by 'regularly'. And, as others have said, you can keep a mental record (the idiomatic expression is 'make a mental note'.

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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Broadly (largamente) right, but I'm not sure what you mean by 'regularly'. And, as others have said, you can keep a mental record (the idiomatic expression is 'make a mental note'.

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    Hi BobK,
    Thank you for your reply. Well, I guess If students 'keep a record' of something, let's say, about their language learning, they have to do it regularly rather that from time to time. Am I wrong? Should I omit the word 'regularly' from the definition then?
    Broadly (En general, a grandes rasgos, en un sentido amplio)

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    Last edited by learning54; 05-Jan-2012 at 11:56.

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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Thanks . Is largamente just wrong? Maybe it's archaic, or Latin American - I'm pretty sure I met it [I]some[/]where!

    Regularity is a good thing, I agree, but it's not an intrinsic part of making a written record. The word for keeping a regular record is archiving - but that's not what students do. Other words in this semantic area are logging (often used with computers - and of course backing up*) and keeping an audit trail/a paper trail (used in business).

    *Before computers, 'backing up' meant, roughly. 'supporting'. It still means that in appropriate contexts.

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    Last edited by BobK; 06-Jan-2012 at 11:40. Reason: Fix typo

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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Thanks . Is largamente just wrong? Maybe it's archaic, or Latin American - I'm pretty sure I met it some[/]where!

    Regularity is a good thing, I agree, but it's not an intrinsic part of making a written record. The word for keeping a regular record is archiving - but that's not what students do. Other words in this semantic area are logging (often used with computers - and of course backing up*) and keeping an audit trail/a paper trail (used in business).

    *Before computers, 'backing up' meant, roughly. 'supporting'. I still means that in appropriate contexts.

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    Thank you for your reply and aditional information.
    Is largamente just wrong? Yes. In this case it is.
    [I]Synonyms in English for largamente: for a long time, at lenght.
    Ex. Éste será un día largamente recordado.
    I think in English is, 'This day will long be remembered'.
    I hope it makes sense.

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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    So it's a bit like the fossilized 'large' that we see in the idiom 'writ large' (which originally meant 'at length' rather than 'with emphasis'). The quotation I recall (Swift?... not sure) is 'New "presbyter" is but old "priest" writ large.'

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    So it's a bit like the fossilized 'large' that we see in the idiom 'writ large' (which originally meant 'at length' rather than 'with emphasis'). The quotation I recall (Swift?... not sure) is 'New "presbyter" is but old "priest" writ large.'

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    Hi BobK,
    The quotation I recall (Swift?... not sure) is 'New "presbyter" is but old "priest" writ large.' 'Writ large' here is similar to 'more obvious'?
    So sorry, but the sentence goes beyond my understanding in English.

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    Hi BobK,
    The quotation I recall (Swift?... not sure) is 'New "presbyter" is but old "priest" writ large.' 'Writ large' here is similar to 'more obvious'?
    So sorry, but the sentence goes beyond my understanding in English.

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    It was a long time ago, when a new branch of Christianity called 'presbyterianism' was becoming popular. The writer was saying 'The new ministers called "Presbyters" are just [this is an old meaning of 'but' - see http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/as...ml#post840428] the same as what we have already - known as "priest". The words are just a bit longer.'

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    Last edited by BobK; 06-Jan-2012 at 11:51. Reason: PS added link

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    Default Re: Definition on 'keep a record'.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    It was a long time ago, when a new branch of Christianity called 'presbyterianism' was becoming popular. The writer was saying 'The new ministers called "Presbyters" are just [this is an old meaning of 'but' - see http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/as...ml#post840428] the same as what we have already - known as "priest". The words are just a bit longer.'

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    Hi BobK,
    Thank you for the information.

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