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    Force someone into doing something.

    Teachers, I came across such sentences as, "They forced him into leaving that country", and, '"It's a bold move that should goad its competitors into doing the same".
    Now, I want to know where and why do we use such sentences? Can't we simply say, " They forced him to leave that country", and, "It's a bold move that should make them do the same"?

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    #2

    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Or should I ask, what are the other verbs that precede into+gerunds? could anyone answer that please.

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    #3

    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Both of your sentences could make sense using either the infinitve or the gerund.

    But they are not interchangeable all the time. Sometimes you have to choose the best one. Context is important.

    You can see from these example sets that either the infinitive or the gerund can be used, or both apply.


    They asked her to leave.

    They asked her into leaving.


    They forced her to leave.

    They forced her into leaving.


    They talked him to leave.

    They talked him into leaving

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    #4

    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by susiedq View Post
    They asked her into leaving.
    That one sounds completely unacceptable to me.

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    Re: Force someone into doing something.

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    That one sounds completely unacceptable to me.
    They talked him to leave. This one too, but I suspect that susiedq meant to show examples of correct and incorrect use, but failed to make that clear in her response.

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    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    I suspect that susiedq meant to show examples of correct and incorrect use, but failed to make that clear in her response.
    That is the obvious answer (though it wasn't obvious to me at the time).. My flabber was so gasted at They asked her into leaving that I didn't even notice They talked him to leave.

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    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    My flabber was so gasted at .
    I'm very sorry for being off-topic here, but could you please tell me if the expression above is common and worth memorizing? It's the first time I see the word cut into halves

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    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    I'm very sorry for being off-topic here, but could you please tell me if the expression above is common and worth memorizing? It's the first time I have seen the word cut into halves
    Sorry - I shouldn't have written something that might confuse learners. It is not common - it was a pathetic attempt at humour

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    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    5jj, could you tell me if my assumption is correct?

    ... my flabber was so gasted at... = ... I was so flabbergasted when I saw...

    Also, did you emphasize it by writing the way you did?

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    Re: Force someone into doing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Sorry - I shouldn't have written something that might confuse learners
    Oh, I believe that in the overwhelming majority of cases such exposure is useful

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