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    Default Re: Question from a ESL Teacher

    What do you mean by pure?

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    By pure I mean an Asian whose parents are both Asians, not one of the parents are American, or from any other English speaking countries.

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    Default Re: Question from a ESL Teacher

    The only Asians I know teaching are American or British. The only non-native speakers I know are white, and highly qualified (masters/DELTA etc). There was someone from the Philippines on my CELTA who already had a job in Saudi Arabia, although I suspect she wasn't paid as much as someone from one of the main English-speaking countries would've been.

    The sad fact is that there are enough racist parents out there for it to affect the hiring policies of many schools in Asia. Not just non-native speakers, but you get parents that even object to Asian-Americans, because they assume they will use "Asian methods" (whatever they are). But getting CELTA certified will definitely help your chances, because it's not only a teacher qualification, it's also evidence that your English is a good enough standard to teach.

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    Well thank you for that info.

    I guess this is indeed a true but bitter fact that I must know I guess, cause I was searching some information about it and all the ads here in Korea are looking for native speakers. That's for sure, but as I know it's the culture that what counts right? Because once we're able understand the native English speaking country culture (like some special language that only in that country understands, whatever it is) that's more important to the learners I guess.
    Although the racism, yeah I get it.

    Anyway, thank you so much "I'm with stupid" :D
    Thank you for your time.

    PS: I might ask another question relating to these soon, if you don't mind :D

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    Default Re: Question from a ESL Teacher

    As state school English teachers in most countries tend to be locals, one of the strong selling points of private language schools is hiring native speakers, which is seen by many as a way of supplementing the state curriculum.

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    I had a lot of complaints about a very competent teacher who worked for me in China. Although she was British, born and educated in England, and spoke with a standard southern English accent, her parents were Chinese, originally from Hong Kong. She did not look English enough for the parents of my pupils. These parents were paying a lot of money for a 'real' English teacher, and many of them just would not accept somebody who did not look the part.

    This was not quite the same as the overt racism I encountered when I wanted to employ an American whose ancestors had come from Africa.
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    Mmm, I see.

    Thank you for sharing :D
    I guess I need to have a second thought about the course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ankuunaa View Post
    I guess I need to have a second thought about the course...
    Sorry if we have put you off, but it's better to know about the problems you might encounter before you invest a lot of money and effort.

    If there are language schools in your locality, why not have a chat with the Directors of Studies of some of them? Tell them that you are thinking of taking a CELTA and ask them what your chances of a job with them are.
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    It's totally OKAY :D

    Actually I hold a BS degree but I thinking of beginning a new career in life, before it's too late. Because I don't find my self succeed or having fun in chemistry lab white coat for the rest of my life, since we're only living once.

    I'm 24, from Mongolia and currently in South Korea.

    Anyway, I gratefully thank you for the responds and sharing your experience.


    Wish you all the best of luck,
    Sincerely, Anku

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