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    Default first daughter, so and such

    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask.

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    The daughter of the president of the United States is " the first daughter". If the president has two or more daughters they are "first daughters". My question is: how do people address one of them? Is it " elder first daughter"?

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    We say so beautiful a car or such a beautiful car. My question is: If the noun is an unaccountable noun we can use both, right? For example, "Such wonderful furniture" or " So wonderful furniture".

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang

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    Default Re: first daughter, so and such

    let me try to answer some of your questions

    No 1

    when they say the term "The First daughter" they don't mean the order of having that child, what they want to say that she is the daughter of the most powerful man in america. you also hear the his wife is "The first lady" not because she was the first lady born but coz she is behind her husbend who is the leader of that country.

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    I think you should place an article in the first 1

    Such a wonderful furniture


    I dont think that we can put a noun after So so I think the correct order should be like this

    The furniture is so wonderful


    anyway wait for the teacher to be sure of what i said

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    Default Re: first daughter, so and such

    It should be 'such wonderful furniture'. We wouldn't use 'so' there with the noun. We could say the 'furnitiure was so wonderful'.

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    Default Re: first daughter, so and such


    Dear tdol,

    Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see it has something to do with idiomatic use instead of grammatical rules.

    Jiang

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    It should be 'such wonderful furniture'. We wouldn't use 'so' there with the noun. We could say the 'furnitiure was so wonderful'.

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