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    Dear Sir or Madam
    I am an Algerian middle-school teacher of English and it's just my third year of doing so, two years as a substitute teacher and this year as a trainee one. I teach the four levels (the first, the second, the third and the fourth) and I have got a problem with teaching the pupils of the fourth year the write it up step whether with cues or without. The pupils are sorely weak: they don't remember most of the vocabulary taught during the previous three yrears or even the vocabulary taught during this year they cannot costruct simple sentences, they forget the ''s'' of present simple and many other weakenesses concerning punctuation, past participles meanings of the most used verbs....
    In order to inhance the pupil's writing capacity I want to try some steps which are:
    1- To allow the use of Arabic - English dictionnary so that pupils overcome the want they have with vocabulary especially if the cues are not given
    2-To use the cues in constructing simple sentences then to add modifiers if they are needeed.
    3- To stress the subject verb agreement,
    4- To link sentences according to the ideas (reason or consequence or addition or enumeration...) .
    5- To read aloud the whole paragraph many times as away of revising it.
    Till now I havenít had a try because Iím not sure about the effectiveness of these steps.
    So please would you help me? I really want my pupils to write good English.
    Thank you very much

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    Welcome to the forum, jolanar.

    Just a few personal thoughts:
    Quote Originally Posted by jolanar View Post
    ... they don't remember most of the vocabulary taught during the previous three yrears or even the vocabulary taught during this year; they cannot construct simple sentences, they forget the ''s'' of present simple and many other weakenesses concerning punctuation, past participles meanings of the most used verbs....
    They sound like normal pupils to me. That's not intended as a flippant remark. Many pupils see learning a language at school as simply a school subject that they have to endure. Gifted teachers (I was never one) can motivate them to learn, but the rest of us just have to do our best.
    Don't be surprised at problems with the third person 's ending or past participles. We who know about the real problems of English tend to assume that learners should at least be able to master these basics. Some of them can't, and some learners who become moderately proficient in English still slip up on 'basic' things,

    In order to ienhance the pupil's' writing capacity I want to try some steps which are:
    1- To allow the use of Arabic - English dictionnary so that pupils overcome the want they have with vocabulary especially if the cues are not given .
    There is always a danger that they can rely on a dictionary so much that they make no real effort to learn vocabulary. There is also the point that, without some training in using a dictionary, pupils can sometimes make more of a mess of things with a dictionary than without. However, if you are aware of the potential risks, I, personally, see benefit in giving them some assistance in Arabic.

    2-To use the cues in constructing simple sentences then to add modifiers if they are needeed.
    I am not sure quite what you mean by this.

    3- To stress the subject verb agreement,
    Don't worry too much about this. If they are able to string together a sentence that is comprehensible, subject-verb agreement mistakes are not the greatest tragedy, in my opinion. If they can't do that, then I think subject-verb-object word order, for example, is more important than a missing inflection.

    4- To link sentences according to the ideas (reason or consequence or addition or enumeration...) .
    I would sooner have several short sentences, reasonably well formed, than one or two more complex sentences badly formed. Once they can produce simple sentences, then you can guide them towards linking ideas.

    5- To read aloud the whole paragraph many times as away of revising it.
    That seems to me to be one sure way of boring them. However, if this is the way they learn in other subjects, they may be used to it.
    Last edited by 5jj; 28-Jan-2012 at 20:29. Reason: typo

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    Hello
    I'm so pleased to receive an answer from a native speaker. Thank you very much
    I really benefited.
    Concerning the second step I meant the use of the cues in constructing simple sentences after that I encourage the pupils to add modifiers to the subject or the verb or the object.
    Allow me to be greedy and ask you about my English and the mistakes I made

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolanar View Post
    Dear Sir or Madam
    I am an Algerian middle-school teacher of English and it's just my third year of doing so, two years as a substitute teacher and this year as a trainee one. I teach the four levels (the first, the second, the third and the fourth) and I have got a problem with teaching the pupils of the fourth year the write it up step whether with cues or without. The pupils are sorely weak: they don't remember most of the vocabulary taught during the previous three yrears or even the vocabulary taught during this year they cannot costruct simple sentences, they forget the ''s'' of present simple and many other weakenesses concerning punctuation, past participles meanings of the most used verbs....
    In order to inhance the pupil's writing capacity I want to try some steps which are:
    1- To allow the use of Arabic - English dictionnary so that pupils overcome the want they have with vocabulary especially if the cues are not given
    2-To use the cues in constructing simple sentences then to add modifiers if they are needeed.
    3- To stress the subject verb agreement,
    4- To link sentences according to the ideas (reason or consequence or addition or enumeration...) .
    5- To read aloud the whole paragraph many times as away of revising it.
    Till now I haven’t had a try because I’m not sure about the effectiveness of these steps.
    So please would you help me? I really want my pupils to write good English.
    Thank you very much
    I am an Algerian middle-school teacher of English and it's just my third year of doing so; two years as a substitute teacher and this year as a trainee one. I teach the first four levels (the first, the second, the third and the fourth) and I have got a problem with teaching the pupils of the fourth year the 'write it up' step, whether with cues or without. The pupils are sorely weak; they don't remember most of the vocabulary taught during the previous three yrears or even the vocabulary taught during this year; they cannot costruct simple sentences, they forget the 's' of present-simple and they have many other weakenesses concerning punctuation, past participles, meanings of the most used verbs, etc.
    In order to enhance the pupils' writing capacity, I want to try some steps which are:
    1- To allow the use of the Arabic-English dictionary, so that the pupils overcome the habits want they have adopted with vocabulary, especially if the cues are not given.
    2- To use the cues in constructing simple sentences, then to add modifiers if they are where needed.
    3- To stress the subject-verb agreement,
    4- To link sentences according to the ideas (reason, consequence, addition or enumeration, etc.).
    5- To read aloud the whole paragraph many times as away of revising it.
    Till now I haven’t had a try attempted the above because I’m not sure about the effectiveness of these steps.
    So please would you help me? I would really like really want my pupils to write good English.

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