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    Re: Had better

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Does anyone really understand this structure? To be honest, it escapes me.
    It's pretty old, presumably like 'I'd rather', which derives not from would rather (which some people say nowadays) but from had rather: of two options, I gave more weight to one.

    As to the negative, I prefer the version my son coined many years ago: I'd bettern't

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    #22

    Re: Had better

    It'll probably catch on.


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    #23

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    i want to know after had better the verb should be gerend or infinitive
    which example is correct
    example:I had better study , I had better to study, or I had better studying

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    #24

    Re: Had better

    I had better study.

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    Talking Re: Had better

    but finally, which one is the best answer to this question, dear moderator?

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    #26

    Re: Had better

    Quote Originally Posted by matilda View Post
    but finally, which one is the best answer to this question, dear moderator?
    Which question, Matilda? Tdol answered it, and his answer is unquestionably right: I had better study - no gerund, no 'to', a bare infinitive.

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    #27

    Re: Had better

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I had better study.
    To answer your initial question, IMO, "had better" is a modal idiom. This is why we can't use the contraction "hadn't better".

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    #28

    Re: Had better

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    ... we can't use the contraction "hadn't better".
    Well you all can't.

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    #29

    Re: Had better

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Well you all can't.

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    Do you?

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    #30

    Re: Had better

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Do you?
    I think so, though maybe it's a regional variant (northern ) - anyway, it's quite widespread now (perhaps because of the BBC's decision to allow newsreaders and continuity announcers to keep their regional accents).

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