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    Default I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔn/)
    Am I on the right track?

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    Louis Vuitton (commonly /ˈluːiː viːˈtɒn/),

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Wikipedia gives: (French: [lwi vɥitɔ̃], commonly /ˈluːiː viːˈtɒn/).

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Wikipedia gives: (French: [lwi vɥitɔ̃], commonly /ˈluːiː viːˈtɒn/).

    I know. But /viːˈtɒn/ = / viːˈtɔn/?

    I don't recognize this weird sign ɒ .

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    * Not a teacher

    /ɒ/ is a short o.

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGod View Post
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    /ɒ/ is a short o.
    It equals /əu/?

    So we read Vuitton as /viːˈtəun/? Or /viːˈtɔn/?

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    It equals /əu/?

    So we read Vuitton as /viːˈtəun/? Or /viːˈtɔn/?
    No, even it may sound similar, a sound doesn't equal any other sound. Say it this way, /viːˈtɒn/.

    As about /viːˈtɔn/, I have never come across /ɔ/ by itself (only in diphthongs: /ɔɪ/ as in join or /ɔː/ (long o), as in broad), I don't know if that's possible.

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGod View Post
    No, even it may sound similar, a sound doesn't equal any other sound. Say it this way, /viːˈtɒn/.

    As about /viːˈtɔn/, I have never come across /ɔ/ by itself (only in diphthongs: /ɔɪ/ as in join or /ɔː/ (long o), as in broad), I don't know if that's possible.

    Like you, I've never come across ɒ. which is pronounced like "o" in the word "long"?

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    Like you, I've never come across ɒ. which is pronounced like "o" in the word "long"?
    Yes. It's the standard phonemic symbol for the sound in BrE: Phonetic symbols for English

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Yes. It's the standard phonemic symbol for the sound in BrE: Phonetic symbols for English

    That source is excellent.
    Thank you.

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    Default Re: I pronounce Louis Vuitton as /ˈluːiː viːˈtɔ:n/)

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    Like you, I've never come across ɒ. which is pronounced like "o" in the word "long"?
    No, I said that I had never come across "isolated" /ɔ/ (only in diphthongs or long o). (long o = /ɔ:/) (short o = ɒ). Long and short are their names or, at least, how I call them, they were not examples.

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