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    Default Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American English)

    Is this correct in American English? (It's an example I made-up in order to understand the rules of quotation marks and commas in this type of situation.)

    The "Apple" row intersects with the columns labeled "Orange", "Grape", and "Strawberry".

    Or should it be written this way:

    The "Apple" row intersects with the columns labeled "Orange,""Grape," and "Strawberry."

    Thank you,

    Donna
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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    The "Apple" row intersects with the columns labeled "Orange", "Grape", and "Strawberry".

    Or should it be written this way:

    The "Apple" row intersects with the columns labeled "Orange,""Grape," and "Strawberry."

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    The "Apple" row intersects with the columns labeled "Orange", "Grape", and "Strawberry".

    Or should it be written this way:

    The "Apple" row intersects with the columns labeled "Orange,""Grape," and "Strawberry."
    With all due respect, Rover, in AmE the commas go inside the quotation marks. "Orange," "grape," and "strawberry."

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    Right, it makes no sense, but the American style always - always! - puts the comma and period inside the quotes. It's one of the few style rules that has an always.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    NOT A TEACHER


    Donna,


    Two Americans have given you the American rule.

    I thought that you would find the following example amusing. Notice where Americans put the comma:


    "In a recent article titled 'What Do Banks Do?,' which appeared in ...."

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    I rarely feel that British conventions are 'better than American, or vice versa - both are equally valid - but, on this occasion, I have to say that the British system appears more logical. Orange is the column label; Orange, is not.

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    I completely agree with you! But since style guides ARE one of those things they vote on and there IS a "correct" format, and your teacher, your employer, or you publisher will all tell you that you have to follow it, you do. If I ever do get a vote, though, I will suggest we follow the more logical form.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    I rarely feel that British conventions are 'better than American, or vice versa - both are equally valid - but, on this occasion, I have to say that the British system appears more logical. Orange is the column label; Orange, is not.
    AmE is ahead on spelling IMO, but BrE does make more sense here to me.

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    This is completely off-topic, but my excuse is that I need to atone for my earlier post saying that BrE practice was (in this case!) more logical. I tell my students that life will be simpler for them if they use HAVE in the AmE way.

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    Default Re: Are commas for single words inside or outside the quotation marks? (American Engl

    Quote Originally Posted by donnach View Post
    "Orange," "Grape," and "Strawberry."
    This ridiculousness is only superseded by the non-adaption of the metric system. I'm talking U.S. here

    And, I'm surprised no one brought up the Serial comma.

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