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    It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

    It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

    Which word in bold should I use or should neither be used?

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    #2

    Re: It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

    I'd use 'that'.

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    #3

    Re: It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    I'd use 'that'.
    Me too, in that context. But 'It was then - when the police arrived - that I ran away.'


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    Re: It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

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    I'd use 'that'.
    Me too, in that context. But 'It was then - when the police arrived - that I ran away.'


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    #5

    Re: It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

    Does it mean that "it was then that" is a set phrase? Seems like "when" doesn't really spoil the meaning but still it's not exactly this set phrase.
    Last edited by Kotfor; 23-Oct-2012 at 15:59.

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    #6

    Re: It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

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    It was then when/that the police arrived.

    It was here where/that we met.

    I think that 'It was then when...." is acceptable to some speakers, as this example demonstrates:

    It was then when I noticed that it was not me who suffered strong changes but him.

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    It was then when I really began to worry.

    (The Portrait - Julio J. Orvananos Archer, see here)

    Other speakers my argue that "then when" is tautologous. See this thread. Perhaps 5jj (or someone else of course) can tell us whether or not the two sentences I quoted above have a similar structure. I think it's a similar case, but I'm not entirely sure.
    Last edited by Chicken Sandwich; 23-Oct-2012 at 12:52.

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    Re: It was then (when/that) the police arrived.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Sandwich View Post
    It was then when I noticed that it was not me who suffered strong changes but him.
    [...]
    It was then when I really began to worry.


    [...] Perhaps 5jj (or someone else of course) can tell us whether or not the two sentences I quoted above have a similar structure.
    Personal, non-expert opinion: they seem to be the same to me. I would use 'that' in both, but I have no strong objection to 'when' these days.

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