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    independent element

    The internet—and pressure from funding agencies, who are questioning why commercial publishers are making money from government-funded research by restricting access to it— is making access to scientific results a reality.

    Please tell me:
    1. Which two words are joined by and?
    2.Whats the function for the independent element?
    3.Whats the relationship between the sentence and its independent element?
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    Re: independent element




    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) My teachers taught me to simplify a sentence before trying to analyze it. So let's reduce your sentence to its

    essentials:

    The Internet -- and pressure from funding agencies -- is making access to scientific results a reality.

    (2) Next I found these sentences in a scholarly work (I shall credit it later):

    John writes well -- and Sally, too.

    John -- and Sally, too -- writes extremely well.

    (3) Let's apply that to your sentence:

    The Internet is making access to scientific results a reality, and pressure from funding agencies, too.

    The Internet -- and pressure from funding agenices, too -- is making access to scientific results a reality.

    (4) Do you think that that your sentence is similar to those sentences quoted from a book? Well, if you do, here is how that

    book explains it (any emphasis is mine):

    Another less regular type of coordination may be called INTERPOLATED, because one of the conjoins behaves as if it is

    inserted , as a parenthesis, in the middle of the clause.

    ***

    Then the scholars turn to their example of "John -- and Sally, too -- writes extremely well."

    They explain: "If we analyze [that sentence] as having a coordinated subject [my emphasis], we have to deal with the

    curiosity of a plural subject [my emphasis] with a singular verb; but if we treat it as a case of interpolated coordination, we
    accept that the subject -verb concord [agreement] will be unaffected by interpolated elements [My note: That is, extra material that has been interjected -- thrown in].

    (5) IF (a big "if") I understand what those scholars are saying:

    (a) The "and" is used because it connects the two subjects "Internet" and "pressure."

    (b) Your independent or parenthetical element is an example of so-called "interpolated coordination." That is, "pressure from

    funding agencies" is acting as if it were a parenthesis. Therefore, the verb agrees with the first subject ("Internet").

    (6) I also need to point out that the scholars say that "in some cases," ellipsis is at work. Maybe your sentence could be reordered as: The Internet is making access to scientific results a reality, and pressure from funding agencies is, too. ( = making access to scientific results a reality).




    A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language
    (1985 edition, pages 975 - 976) written by Professors Randolph Quirk, Sidney Greenbaum, Geoffrey Leech
    and Jan Svartvik.




    Last edited by TheParser; 04-Mar-2012 at 17:05.

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    Re: independent element

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post



    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) My teachers taught me to simplify a sentence before trying to analyze it. So let's reduce your sentence to its

    essentials:

    The Internet -- and pressure from funding agencies -- is making access to scientific results a reality.

    (2) Next I found these sentences in a scholarly work (I shall credit it later):

    John writes well -- and Sally, too.

    John -- and Sally, too -- writes extremely well.

    (3) Let's apply that to your sentence:

    The Internet is making access to scientific results a reality, and pressure from funding agencies, too.

    The Internet -- and pressure from funding agenices, too -- is making access to scientific results a reality.

    (4) Do you think that that your sentence is similar to those sentences quoted from a book? Well, if you do, here is how that

    book explains it (any emphasis is mine):

    Another less regular type of coordination may be called INTERPOLATED, because one of the conjoins behaves as if it is

    inserted , as a parenthesis, in the middle of the clause.

    ***

    Then the scholars turn to their example of "John -- and Sally, too -- writes extremely well."

    They explain: "If we analyze [that sentence] as having a coordinated subject [my emphasis], we have to deal with the

    curiosity of a plural subject [my emphasis] with a singular verb; but if we treat it as a case of interpolated coordination, we
    accept that the subject -verb concord [agreement] will be unaffected by interpolated elements [My note: That is, extra material that has been interjected -- thrown in].

    (5) IF (a big "if") I understand what those scholars are saying:

    (a) The "and" is used because it connects the two subjects "Internet" and "pressure."

    (b) Your independent or parenthetical element is an example of so-called "interpolated coordination." That is, "pressure from

    funding agencies" is acting as if it were a parenthesis. Therefore, the verb agrees with the first subject ("Internet").

    (6) I also need to point out that the scholars say that "in some cases," ellipsis is at work. Maybe your sentence could be reordered as: The Internet is making access to scientific results a reality, and pressure from funding agencies is, too. ( = making access to scientific results a reality).




    A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language
    (1985 edition, pages 975 - 976) written by Professors Randolph Quirk, Sidney Greenbaum, Geoffrey Leech
    and Jan Svartvik.




    I have to accept your comment, because what you said not only is reasonable but alse has powerful evidence.Thank you sincerely! By the way, may I contact you?
    Last edited by notletrest; 05-Mar-2012 at 11:00.

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    Re: independent element

    Thank you for your very kind note. I also thank you for the question because I learned so much while researching an answer.

    I do not claim that I have given the correct answer. I simply wanted to present what I had found. Perhaps you will receive a

    better answer from other posters. Thank you, too, for wanting to contact me. I prefer, however, to discuss matters only in

    open forums such as this one. I think that usingenglish.com -- and other English helplines, too -- is doing a great job in

    helping us learners. Many thanks again!

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