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    Talking the word excursion

    Hi all teachers.
    In the word excursion, his IPA is ɪkˈskɜːə n .
    I've found the sound ʃ in ship ʃɪp.
    I want to know I heard z in excursion (I've Cambridge dictionary software).
    Thank you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by light87 View Post
    Hi all teachers.
    In the word excursion, his IPA is ɪkˈskɜːə n .
    I've found the sound ʃ in ship ʃɪp.
    I want to know I heard z in excursion (I've Cambridge dictionary software).
    Thank you.


    Do you have a question? There is no /z/ in 'excursion', unless you pronounce it /ɪgˈzkɜːən / or /egˈzkɜːən/, as some people do.

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    Default Re: the word excursion

    Hi teachers.
    I've heard z in sion (I've Cambridge dictionary software).
    Thank you.

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    Default Re: the word excursion

    What you heard is not /z/, but a similar sound: /ʒ/, which is a voiced counterpart of /ʃ/.

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    Talking Re: the word excursion

    Hi all teachers,thank you for your help.
    Please why it don't write in IPA with /ʃ/,and what is the meaning of a voiced counterpart .
    Thank you.

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    Default Re: the word excursion

    In North America we pronounce it /əkˈskə˞ʒən/

    /ʒ/ is identical to /ʃ/ except that it is voiced. Just like /z/ is identical to /s/ except that it is voiced.

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    Talking Re: the word excursion

    Hi all teachers.
    Thank you for your help.
    "/ʒ/ is identical to /ʃ/",ok for this but why in IPA they don't use /ʒ/?.
    for me the of IPA is know how to pronounce correctly
    Thank you.

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    Default Re: the word excursion

    Quote Originally Posted by light87 View Post
    Hi all teachers.
    Thank you for your help.
    "/ʒ/ is identical to /ʃ/",ok for this but why in IPA they don't use /ʒ/?.
    for me the of IPA is know how to pronounce correctly
    Thank you.
    If you are asking why a certain dictionary writes /ʃ/ but has a sound file that says /ʒ/, then it's probably because different people do the voice recordings and the IPA transcription. That doesn't excuse it, but it could explain it.

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    Talking Re: the word excursion

    Hi all teachers ,thank you for your help,so what is the rule to know that you must pronounce /ʒ instead of /ʃ/.

    Thank you

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    Default Re: the word excursion

    Quote Originally Posted by light87 View Post
    Hi all teachers ,thank you for your help,so what is the rule to know that you must pronounce /ʒ instead of /ʃ/.

    Thank you
    There's no rule. If you're American, as JohnAnderson says, you use /ʒ/. If you're a non-American native English speaker you use /ʃ/. If you are neither, you get a choice.

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