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    Default tt between vowels

    The rules of pronunciation are usually vague with lots of exceptions. I think when we have tt (double t) between vowels the tt is pronounced /d/ however I don't know whether the rule is only for one syllable words or that could be general.
    exs: bottle, written, cattle, etc.
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    Default Re: tt between vowels

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    The rules of pronunciation are usually vague with lots of exceptions. I think when we have tt (double t) between vowels the tt is pronounced /d/ however I don't know whether the rule is only for one syllable words or that could be general.
    exs: bottle, written, cattle, etc.
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    I wouldn't pronounce the "tt" as "d" in any of your examples.

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    Default Re: tt between vowels

    This will vary regionally. I would agree that my "cattle" and "bottle" sound like d's. But not my "written."

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    Default Re: tt between vowels

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    The rules of pronunciation are usually vague with lots of exceptions. I think when we have tt (double t) between vowels the tt is pronounced /d/ however I don't know whether the rule is only for one syllable words or that could be general.
    exs: bottle, written, cattle, etc.
    Thanks,
    The "tt" doesn't come between vowels in "bottle" or "cattle". It comes after a vowel and before a consonant. In "written", it does come between vowels.

    As Soothing Dave said, it's regional. I agree with bhaisahab that in BrE all your examples would have the "t" sound in the middle. In AmE, "bottle" and "cattle" can sound like "boddle" and "caddle".

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    Default Re: tt between vowels

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    The "tt" doesn't come between vowels in "bottle" or "cattle". It comes after a vowel and before a consonant.
    It comes before a consonant letter, but at least in some dialects it comes before a vowel sound.

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    Default Re: tt between vowels

    So there is no such rule in English. But if you know any other similar rule about 'tt' please mention (although that wouldn't be a hundred percent correct)

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    Default Re: tt between vowels

    The one scenario you need to worry about: VttVn, where the first V is stressed. In this case, t is nasally released: for instance, Man'hattan, Har'mattan 'rotten, 'smitten, 'button, 'cotton, 'glutton, 'Trenton (NJ), 'Barton, 'Scranton (PA)

    'Fullerton (CA): t can be flapped or unaspirated and orally released.
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