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    Default simple past vs present perfect till now

    HELLO...Finally, I have found a page which I will be able to take an answer.
    A)I have had two girl friends till now, and both of two finished disappointingly, too.
    B)I had two girl friends till now, and both of two finished disappointingly, too.

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    A)I have bought 2 cars by now, last year I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.
    B)
    I bought 2 cars by now, last year I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.
    Last edited by irrina34444; 21-Mar-2012 at 22:01.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    Quote Originally Posted by irrina34444 View Post
    HELLO...Finally, I have found a page which I will be able to take an answer.
    A)I have had two girl friends till now, and both of two finished disappointingly, too.
    B)I had two girl friends till now, and both of two finished disappointingly, too.

    Either verb form is OK, but "till now" doesn't add anything to the meaning. Also, "both of two" is, at best, clumsy. You could say "both of the two" or "both of them".

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    A)I have bought 2 cars by now, last year I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.
    B)
    I bought 2 cars by now, last year I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.

    "By now" is not a common term as used in your example particularly because the cars were sold last year, so to refer to a past time period that continues up to the present with "last year" is incongruous. I would prefer to say, "in the past".
    b.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    I don't think you mean that the girlfriends finished disappointingly. I think you mean both relationships ended in disappointment.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    Can we use 'in the past' with present perfect tense?

    I have bought 2 cars in the past, last year I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    You can, but it doesn't add anything to your sentence.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    OK! I got it. It is more likely to say:
    I (have) bought 2 cars in the past, I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.





    Last edited by irrina34444; 22-Mar-2012 at 10:34.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    The use of the past tense shows that you are talking about the past so there's not really any need to add a phrase like "in the past".

    I have owned two cars. I sold one to my brother and the other to my friend.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    Please note that emsr2d2 corrected your comma splice. You need to make those two sentences, as she has done ,and not join them together with a comma.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: simple past vs present perfect till now

    Quote Originally Posted by irrina34444 View Post
    Can we use 'in the past' with present perfect tense?

    I have bought 2 cars in the past, last year I sold one of them to my brother, and the other to my friend.
    Yes. This is better. Without the phrase "in the past", use of the present perfect in your example suggests a most recent purchase and then the issue of incongruity with "last year" emerges.

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