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    Default Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage....)

    I quoted #1 from the site above.. 1min 36seconds...

    1. Today we say PyongYang have the courage to puesue peace and give a better life to the people of North Korea.

    Q) How should I understand the structure of the sentence considering underlined part?
    All I know about the use of say is this:
    I said something to him.
    I said that he is a liar.

    When I listened to it, "to" is not be able to be heard. But it should be there considering "Say (something) to someone."
    Do you think I missed "to" because it pronounced really quickly as much as it is not noticed?
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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    That seems to be missing a "to." Today we say to PyongYang "have..."

    Or maybe:

    Today we say "Pyongyang, have..."

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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    Thank you.
    Ah.. can we say "say someone"? just like "say to someone"?

    Can I ask one more question?

    Q) It leads to more of the same more broken dreams, more isolation and ever more distance between the people of North Korea and dignity and opportunity they deserve. (quoted from 1:07)

    The underlined part is difficult for me(the structure and the meaning). How should I understand it?

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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    Ah.. can we say "say someone"? just like "say to someone"?
    He's addressing "Pyongyang" the same as if I said "Bob, can you pass me the salt." Note the punctuation I added:

    Today we say "Bob, pass the salt, please."

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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    It leads
    to more of the same more broken dreams
    , more isolation and ever more distance between the people of North Korea and dignity and opportunity they deserve.
    Again, the punctuation is not correct. I understand this is a transcript.

    It leads to more of the same: more broken dreams, more...

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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    Quote Originally Posted by moon7296 View Post
    Today we say PyongYang have the courage to puesue peace and give a better life to the people of North Korea.
    He might have meant the people of PyongYang. There are cases when we can do it. For instance,

    Barcelona are negotiating a new deal. (the Spanish football club)

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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennevis View Post
    He might have meant the people of PyongYang. There are cases when we can do it. For instance,

    Barcelona are negotiating a new deal. (the Spanish football club)
    He meant the government/leader of North Korea. The people there don't have a lot of say in anything.

    Plus he is calling on Pyongyang to "have courage" in order to improve the lives of the people of NK.

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    Default Re: Obama's speech in Korea 2012, Mar (And today we say PyeonYang have the courage...

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    He meant the government/leader of North Korea. The people there don't have a lot of say in anything.

    Plus he is calling on Pyongyang to "have courage" in order to improve the lives of the people of NK.
    In any case, we've managed to explain the usage.

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