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    Hi all teachers.
    I have read that the real IPA of air is eɝː not er.
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    Re: ask for information

    Who says it's /er/?
    Last edited by Tdol; 29-Mar-2012 at 08:01. Reason: Fixing formatting

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    Talking Re: ask for information

    Hi it is from Cambridge dictionary

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    Re: ask for information

    Cambridge Dictionaries use their own system. It's not the IPA. Here is the full list of symbols they use:
    Help - Cambridge Dictionary Online

    Dictionaries try to write things in a way that is clear to readers, so they don't always use the IPA.

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    Talking Re: ask for information

    Hi but the problem is the sound is air so here r is used as consonant but in my course or prounicitation jenifier ESL, it is used as vowel so the sound ɝː (cambride use this sound also).
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    Quote Originally Posted by light87 View Post
    Hi but the problem is the sound is air so here r is used as consonant but in my course or prounicitation jenifier ESL, it is used as vowel so the sound ɝː (cambride use this sound also).
    Thank you
    The sound at the end of the word 'air' is not a true consonant in most varieties of English, even when followed by a vowel sound. The 'meaning' of any transcription can be understood fully only by reading the transcriber's notes. Three dictionaries may well use different symbols for sounds that are pronounced in exactly the same way.

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    HI thank you for your help.
    In Cambridge dictionary they use r when it is consonant and ɝ it is vowel,but in air r is vowel !
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    Quote Originally Posted by light87 View Post
    In a Cambridge dictionary they use /r/ when it is a consonant and /ɝ/ when it is vowel,spacebut in 'air' r is a vowel !
    Which Cambridge Dictionary are you talking about?

    Here, air noun (GAS) - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online it is: /eər /[IMG]file:///C:/Users/jed/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]/er/


    Here, air n ((GAS)) - definition in American English Dictionary - Cambridge Dictionary Online it is /eər/


    In my Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary it is /eər /.

    Where did you find /ɝ/?
    Last edited by 5jj; 06-Apr-2012 at 10:48. Reason: typo

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    Hi thank you.
    I've found /ɝ/ in mother when it American pronunciation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by light87 View Post
    I've found /ɝ/ in mother when it American pronunciation.
    You need to say which dictionary you found it in if you want us to comment. Without that information, we do not know what sound the compiler of the dictionary intends the symbol to represent.

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