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    #1

    I found him a thief / I found that he was a thief.

    1. I found him a thief.

    2. I found that he was a thief.

    3. I found a thief for him.


    Is sentence 1 same in meaning with 2 ? or 3?

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    #2

    Re: I found him a thief / I found that he was a thief.

    Quote Originally Posted by wotcha View Post
    1. I found him a thief. This is awkward. It sounds like #3

    2. I found that he was a thief. If #1 were "If found him to be a thief" it would mean this.

    3. I found a thief for him. This is such an improbable situation that it's hard to imagine when you'd need to find sentence that mean this.


    Is sentence 1 same in meaning with 2 ? or 3?
    Note the difference between "I found him a X" and "I found him to be a X."

    It's different with adjectives: I found him quite charming = I found him to be quite charming.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #3

    Re: I found him a thief / I found that he was a thief.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Note the difference between "I found him a X" and "I found him to be a X."

    It's different with adjectives: I found him quite charming = I found him to be quite charming.

    Then, what about "I believe him a thief"

    Does it sound like "I believe that he was a thief"?

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    #4

    Re: I found him a thief / I found that he was a thief.

    Avoid 'I believe him a thief'.

    You could say 'I believe him to be a thief'.

    Rover

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    #5

    I found him to be a thief. I think him to be a thief.

    1. I found him to be a thief.

    2. I thought him to be a thief.

    Do the both 1 and 2 sound OK?

    Then

    3. I found him a thief.

    4. I thought him a thief.

    How about 3 and 4? They must be awkward to native speakers - ?

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    #6

    Re: I found him to be a thief. I think him to be a thief.

    Quote Originally Posted by wotcha View Post
    1. I found him to be a thief. OK, but not very natural.

    2. I thought him to be a thief. OK, but a very formal/dated construction.

    Do the both 1 and 2 sound OK?

    Then

    3. I found him a thief. No.

    4. I thought him a thief. Same comment as #2.

    How about 3 and 4? They must be awkward to native speakers - ?
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    #7

    Re: I found him a thief / I found that he was a thief.

    I think that the first two sentences are quite similar in their meanings while the third one is different. Please do correct if i am wrong.

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