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    Question Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Hello!

    1- Longman Pronunciation Dictionary - 3rd Edition writes ˈplen i as the better American pronunciation for the word plenty.

    2- But many audio samples from other American or American version of dictionaries sound like "plenti".
    Webster
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    Oxford Advanced American Dictionary
    (I have used their free online version)

    3- some sound like "plendi": like:
    Macmillan English Dictionary (American English)
    Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary
    (I have used their free online version)

    4- I ask this because Longman Pronunciation Dictionary is a specialized dictionary both for BrE and AmE and an error for such a famous word is very improbable.

    5- I know that in AmE, part is pronounced like "part", but "party" is more like "pardi". I know that Longman Pronunciation Dictionary knows such rules.

    6- Do not pay attention to the italic t in the ˈplen i.


    So, is "plendi" incorrect, acceptable or better (i.e. used more in AmE)?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

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    I can't speak for BrE, but 'plendi' doesn't sound right at all. Maybe 'plenny' if your talking fast, but the 'd' sound after an 'n' is very conspicuous. If you're in the States, please use a hard 't'.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    I would not ever insert a "d" sound in this word. In common speech, the "t" would basically disappear and you would hear "plenny."

    Same thing with the word "twenty." The way I say it is like "twunny."

    This will vary by region in AmE, of course. If I was speaking formally, I would enunciate the "t."

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    I think the same's true of BrE- you'll hear the /t/ dropped.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Not a speaker of AmE

    The LPD uses the symbol for the alveolar tap, usually voiced, for plenty and twenty, not /d/, the voiced alveolar (sometimes dental). plosive. Could it be that in General American, the variety that the LPD records, the consonant we are talking about is more dental/voiced than the /t/ of, for example, tea - assuming it is not omitted altogether?

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I think the same's true of BrE- you'll hear the /t/ dropped.
    Yes,
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    A casual-speech form ˈplen i is also heard in British English.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Not a speaker of AmE

    The LPD uses the symbol for the alveolar tap, usually voiced, for plenty and twenty, not /d/, the voiced alveolar (sometimes dental). plosive. Could it be that in General American, the variety that the LPD records, the consonant we are talking about is more dental/voiced than the /t/ of, for example, tea - assuming it is not omitted altogether?
    I can't understand your text clearly.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Plenny or plenty, but never plendy.

    Just like, as said above, twenny or twenty, but never twendy.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Plenny or plenty, but never plendy.
    LPD did not claim it was 'plendy'. The transcription was with an alveolar tap rather than a plosive. My contact with Americans suggests that many use something like a tap. It's not the full /t/, but the consonant is not dropped altogether. The tap is so brief that the preceding nasal and following vowel mean that the sound is (partly at least) voiced.

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    Default Re: Is the word plenty pronounced like "plendi" in AmE?

    Sorry, I was replying to the very first post. I have to confess that my study of phoenetics was so long ago I am unable to either refute or confirm just about any statement about tapped sounds - unless it's a keg!
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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