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    Hello, great folks. Well...today I do not even know how to ask a question about meaning difference of "for gerund" and " to V" So, is there a meaning difference between "I use my computer for studying English" and "I use my computer to study English" I think the latter is more natural and sounds better, but I am not sure and how about these, "This is clothes to play soccer" and "This is clothes for playing soccer" I think both are okay and the meaning of the two is the same or similar but I am not sure. That's why I need your help again. Please help me again.

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    Default Re: "for gerund" and " to V"

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    Hello, great folks. Well...today I do not even know how to ask a question about meaning difference of "for gerund" and " to V" So, is there a meaning difference between "I use my computer for studying English" and "I use my computer to study English" I think the latter is more natural and sounds better, but I am not sure and how about these, "This is clothes to play soccer" and "This is clothes for playing soccer" I think both are okay and the meaning of the two is the same or similar but I am not sure. That's why I need your help again. Please help me again.
    Hi
    If you want to talk about the purpose of something, use "to/in order to/so that". For example, I use my computer to surf on the net/ I use my computer in order to surf on the net/ I use my computer so that I can surf on the net.
    However, "for" is also possible to talk about the general use of something. For instance, we use a knife for cutting. We use a key for opening the door, but I use a knife to open the door (an unusual use of something).

    Good luck

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    Default Re: "for gerund" and " to V"

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    Hello, great folks. Well...today I do not even know how to ask a question about meaning difference of "for gerund" and " to V" So, is there a meaning difference between "I use my computer for studying English" and "I use my computer to study English" I think the latter is more natural and sounds better, but I am not sure and how about these, "This is clothes to play soccer" and "This is clothes for playing soccer" I think both are okay and the meaning of the two is the same or similar but I am not sure. That's why I need your help again. Please help me again.
    First of all, gerund is used as NOUN. Although it has a "Verb + -ing" form, it is used as a noun. so dont get confused with verb.
    here's a example of simple gerund = "Playing is fun!"
    do you see Playing, even though looks like a verb, is actually a subject of the sentence? And is is a verb of that sentence.
    In your case : I use my computer for studying English
    use is a verb of that sentence whilestudying English is a "object of preposition" another words, object for for
    simply think of Object of preposition as completing word for prepostions. (for, in, at, etc.)
    Also, remember OBJECT is always a noun, therefore studying (Verb + -ing) has to be gerund.

    Now "to V" , TO is used in many ways. like moonlike said, it indicates the place you are going or used as connector for another verb.
    For example, "Im going to the store" (indicates where) / "I'm going to play" (verb connector)

    "Im going to the store"

    "am going" (Verb + -ing) is a VERB not GREUND lol
    to is used to indicate where I am going = to where? to the store

    "I'm going to play"
    here, "am going" (Verb + -ing) is a VERB
    but to here is used as connector for another verb, PLAY.

    do you see the difference?

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    Default Re: "for gerund" and " to V"

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    I am not sure and how about these, "This is clothes to play soccer" and "This is clothes for playing soccer" I think both are okay and the meaning of the two is the same or similar but I am not sure. That's why I need your help again. Please help me again.
    Neither of these are correct English.

    Firstly, it should begin "These are clothes..."

    Secondly, even with that correction, we simply would not produce those words. Possible utterances include:

    This is a soccer kit/gear.
    These are soccer clothes(?)
    This is kit/gear we wear to play soccer (in).
    This is kit/gear for soccer.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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