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    Cool dove versus pigeon

    Is there any difference in meaning between the following two: DOVE and PIGEON?


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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    They're in the same family of birds, but doves are the smaller species. Also, pigeons are seen as a nuisance bird found in cities, while doves are thought to be pretty.

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad-ox View Post
    Is there any difference in meaning between the following two: DOVE and PIGEON?


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    Do the two different birds not have two different names in Hungarian?

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    If it's white, I would call it a dove.

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Do the two different birds not have two different names in Hungarian?
    From the linguistic point of view, I am not sure we see the difference between the two types of birds in Russian. True, certain suffixes can change the connotation, yet unless you are much into ornithology it's more about the accompanying adjectives that can vary the meaning.

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    Quote Originally Posted by Esgaleth View Post
    From the linguistic point of view, I am not sure we see the difference between the two types of birds in Russian.
    You have a very limited number of distinct words for types of birds in Russian?

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    The two most common varieties of these birds in the UK are the woodpigeon and the collared dove. As you can see from those links, they look different and they have completely different Latin names, so they do not appear even to be from the same species of bird.

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    The two most common varieties of these birds in the UK are the woodpigeon and the collared dove. As you can see from those links, they look different and they have completely different Latin names, so they do not appear even to be from the same species of bird.
    No, but elsewhere on that site we find that two of the doves mentioned have the latin species name 'columba', as does the woodpigeon, so there is no clear distinction between doves and turtles.

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    Clearly several years' childhood membership of the YOC (Young Ornithologists' Club) did nothing for this birdbrain!

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    Default Re: dove versus pigeon

    Quote Originally Posted by BobSmith View Post
    You have a very limited number of distinct words for types of birds in Russian?
    Quite the opposite. Apart form the 'official' classification of birds, there are also innumerable regional varieties for local species. However, to an average city dweller about 90% of this vocabulary will sound Chinese or be in passive at best.
    Your 'collared dove' and 'woodpigeon' have different Russian equivalents. I have to confess I know them both but I'd never come up with any of them on my own, probably because I don't identify these birds in real life.
    Still, just 'dove' and just 'pigeon' is one word, which is more about connotation than bird types.

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