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    the American dream come true???

    Hello, teachers.

    I've found the following sentence.

    1. His rise in his company is the American dream come true.

    Should this "dream" be "dreams"?
    Or
    Should this "come" be "comes"?

    In addition, should there be "that" in front of "the American ..."?

    If #1 is correct as it is, would you explain why to me?

    Thank you very much in advance for your help on this.

    yam.

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    Re: the American dream come true???

    First read the Similar Threads below.

    Do they help?

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    Re: the American dream come true???

    Quote Originally Posted by yamyam View Post
    1. His rise in his company is the American dream come true.

    Should this "dream" be "dreams"?
    No
    Quote Originally Posted by yamyam View Post
    Or
    Should this "come" be "comes"?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by yamyam View Post
    In addition, should there be "that" in front of "the American ..."?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by yamyam View Post
    If #1 is correct as it is, would you explain why to me?
    We use the expression the American dream- it suggests that in America it is possible for people to achieve great things from humble backgrounds. Come true is used when something has been turned into reality.

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    Re: the American dream come true???

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, yamyam:

    May I add my two cents' worth to the teachers' excellent answers?

    As we non-teachers must do before posting, I have checked my books and the Web before posting this. So I think it is

    accurate.

    (1) "come true" seems to be a fixed expression/phrase. The word "come" does NOT change tense.

    (a) Look at this sentence from Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary (Web):

    "The trip abroad was a dream come true." (Although the trip was in the past, you do NOT change the verb to "came.")

    (2) Mesdames Anne Paxton and Meryl Wilkins in their Teaching Adult ESOL (Google books) say that "come true"

    is a fixed exoression (you do not change the tense). They tell us that it usually collocates (combines) with "wish"

    or "dream." It does not collocate with "problem."

    (3) Be careful! Look at this:

    I will be 76 years old come March, 2013. (If I live that long!)

    (a) The use of "come" here is different. The books (such as the great Professor George Oliver Curme's masterpiece

    A Grammar of the English Language) tell us that we are dealing here with something called the subjunctive. It is an

    elegant way to say: I will be 76 years when March shall come.

    (i) I think that in regular English, people just say: I will be 76 years old next March. If you want to sound quite

    elegant, you could say "I will be 76 come March," and if you want to be super elegant, you could say "I wll be 76

    when March shall come." Of course, in 2012, nobody would use the last sentence. But people definitely use the

    second sentence. Here are some real examples that I have collected over the years:

    "The Report," which come September will air on Channel 4."

    "Our plans will be settled come Friday."

    (4) Returning to your original question, "come true" does not change in "His rise in the company is an American

    dream come true" because it is simply a fixed phrase/expression. It means (as the Learner's Dictionary says):

    "to become real: to happen in the way that you wish or dream."


    HAVE A NICE DAY! (Thanks a lot for your question. I learned a lot.)
    Last edited by TheParser; 10-May-2012 at 19:01.

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    Re: the American dream come true???

    Thank you very much for the instructions, Mr. Rover_KE, Mr. Tdol and Mr. TheParser.
    Especially great thanks to Mr. TheParser for taking time to answer my (silly) question.

    According to your advice, I've checked the other posts and some dictionaries and now I understand the meaning of the phrase.

    Thanks again for your efforts,

    yam.

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