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    Comperative

    What should I say to define,say,a chimney was not as sooty as I expected,as less sootier ?

    Or what form do the similar adjectives take ? ...hard : less harder..shy :less shier ?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Comperative

    A was sootier/harder than B.
    B was not as sooty/hard as A.
    B was less sooty/hard than B.

    A was more difficult than B.
    B was not as difficult as A.
    B was less difficult than A.

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    Re: Comperative

    Quote Originally Posted by unaccounted for View Post
    What should I say to define,say,a chimney was not sooty as I expected,as less sootier ?

    Or what form do the similar adjectives take ? ...hard : less harder..shy :less shier ?

    Thanks in advance.
    Comparisons with 'as .... as' take an adjective in its original form. That means: not as sooty as I expected. Which simply implies the first element as less sooty.

    On another hand, we can not combine less with sootier. 'Less' goes for longer adjectives, three and more syllables.

    Hopes this helps,

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    Re: Comperative

    Thank you both.

    I understand that "less sooty" is gramatically correct form,though it sounds to native speakers a bit awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nouamaneer View Post
    Comparisons with 'as .... as' take an adjective in its original form. That means: not as sooty as I expected. Which simply implies the first element as is less sooty than I expected.

    On an the other hand, we can not combine 'less' with 'sootier'. 'Less' goes for longer adjectives, three and more syllables.
    That is not correct. We cannot use 'less' with a comparative form of any length. We can't say that one thing is 'less harder/sootier' than another, just as we can't say that one thing is 'less more difficult" than another. One thing is either more or less adjective than another; it can't be both. It has nothing to do with the length of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unaccounted for View Post
    Thank you both.

    I understand that "less sooty" is grammatically correct form, though it sounds to native speakers a bit awkward.
    "less sooty" doesn't sound at all awkward to me.

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    I'd be more likely, normally, to say 'A is sootier than B' than 'B is less sooty than A', but that doesn't mean that I find the second version awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    That is not correct. We cannot use 'less' with a comparative form of any length. We can't say that one thing is 'less harder/sootier' than another, just as we can't say that one thing is 'less more difficult" than another. One thing is either more or less adjective than another; it can't be both. It has nothing to do with the length of the word.
    I guess that's what I've already said myself. I can not see why you quoted me when you hadn't understood my message!

    I agree with your message as that's what intended to explain.

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    Unaccounted for, please note that the word is "comparative", not "comperative".
    Last edited by birdeen's call; 14-May-2012 at 15:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nouamaneer View Post
    I guess that's what I've already said myself. I can not see why you quoted me when you hadn't understood my message!
    I did understand your message, and it was not correct. You wrote
    'Less' goes for longer adjectives, three and more syllables.
    That is not true. 'Less' can go with adjectives of any length, but it cannot go with comparatives.

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