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    The difference (in pronunciation) between 'finger' and 'singer'

    Hello, everyone!

    singer sɪŋə(r)
    finger fɪŋgə(r)

    The words that end with '-nger' are really confusing to me.
    'singer' is the only word that I know which has 'ŋə(r)' sound. (because of my poor knowledge...)
    Could you give me some other words with 'ŋə(r)' ?
    Thank you in advance!

    P.S. I should have posted this in the Phonetics section. (I thought I did..., I don't know what happened...)
    I'm sorry...Please move this to the relevant section.
    Last edited by tzfujimino; 24-May-2012 at 15:32.

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    Re: The difference (in pronunciation) between 'singer' and 'finger'

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hello, everyone!


    'singer' is the only word that I know which has 'ŋə(r)' sound. (because of my poor knowledge...)
    Could you give me some other words with 'ŋə(r)' ?
    NOT A TEACHER

    I had to think about it for a while, but a word that came to mind after some thought was "ringer".

    Edit: another word: "zinger".
    Last edited by Chicken Sandwich; 24-May-2012 at 17:22.

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    Re: The difference (in pronunciation) between 'singer' and 'finger'

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hello, everyone!

    singer sɪŋə(r)
    finger fɪŋgə(r)

    The words that end with '-nger' are really confusing to me.
    'singer' is the only word that I know which has 'ŋə(r)' sound. (because of my poor knowledge...)
    Could you give me some other words with 'ŋə(r)' ?
    Thank you in advance!

    P.S. I should have posted this in the Phonetics section. (I thought I did..., I don't know what happened...)
    I'm sorry...Please move this to the relevant section.
    I'll just add that when n is followed by k or g it's pronounced
    ŋ.
    Also across word boundary.

    in camera
    bank
    singing




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    Re: The difference (in pronunciation) between 'finger' and 'singer'

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    'singer' is the only word that I know which has 'ŋə(r)' sound. (because of my poor knowledge...)
    Could you give me some other words with 'ŋə(r)' ?
    banger, clanger, hangar, hanger
    I should have posted this in the Phonetics section. (I thought I did..., I don't know what happened...)
    I'm sorry...Please move this to the relevant section.
    Don't worry; accidents happen. I've moved it.

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    #5

    Re: The difference (in pronunciation) between 'finger' and 'singer'

    That is due to ng-coalescence.

    sing, sing+er, sing+ing
    hang, hang+er
    bang, bang+ing
    spring, spring+y
    dung, dung+y
    wing, wing+y

    In words like finger, linger, bangle, there is no morphological boundary (+) between ng and er/le.

    In some other words, despite the presence of morphological boundary, you hear g; cf. longer, stronger, younger, longest, strongest, youngest.

    Then, you also have contemporary dialectal differences within English accents. Check Our changing pronunciation

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