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    Hi teachers,
    According to this question, 'How many of the man's ribs are fractured?' Are both answers correct?
    a) Two ribs are.
    b) Two of his ribs are.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: Are the answers given correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    Hi teachers,
    According to this question, 'How many of the man's ribs are fractured?' Are both answers correct?
    a) Two ribs are.
    b) Two of his ribs are.

    Thanks in advance.
    Hmmm, I'm inclined to say no. I can't quite put my finger on it, but ending the sentence with "are" is grating on me, although I have used that ending in one of my suggested replies. In response to the question "How many of the man's ribs are fractured?", I would expect:

    - Two.
    - Two of them are.
    - Two of his ribs are fractured.
    - Two of the man's ribs are fractured.

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    Default Re: Are the answers given correct?

    Hi,
    Thank you for your reply.
    In this answer 'Two of them are', 'them' is an object pronoun. I've always thought that when you have an object pronoun in a sentence, you should also have a subject pronoun in it, and that's not always true, like in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    I've always thought that when you have an object pronoun in a sentence, you should also have a subject pronoun in it
    I don't know where you got that strange idea.

    The Harry Potter novels are very popular, but some people don't like them.
    Last edited by 5jj; 27-May-2012 at 11:22. Reason: spacing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    The Harry Potter novels are very popular, but some people don't like them.
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    Isn't 'some people' the subject? If I wish to substitude it with 'they' I could do it. Something that I can't do with my original sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    Hi,
    Isn't 'some people' the subject? If I wish to substitude it with 'they' I could do it.
    "Some people" is the subject but you said you thought there had to be a subject pronoun.

    Saying "The Harry Potter novels are very popular but they don't like them" doesn't mean the same thing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "Some people" is the subject but you said you thought there had to be a subject pronoun.

    Saying "The Harry Potter novels are very popular but they don't like them" doesn't mean the same thing at all.
    Hi,
    Sorry, want I wanted to mean is that whenever you have an 'object' or an 'object pronoun' in a sentence you should have a 'subject' or a 'subject pronoun' in that sentence. Isn't that so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hi!
    If you could give us some examples based on your idea, perhaps we might be able to sort out your problem.
    Hi,
    Kate loves Robert. (She loves him.)
    Kate always helps Robert. (She always helps him.)
    Kate and Robert invited Sharon to the movies. (They invited her to the movies.)
    Etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    Hi,
    Sorry, want I wanted to mean is that whenever you have an 'object' or an 'object pronoun' in a sentence you should have a 'subject' or a 'subject pronoun' in that sentence. Isn't that so?
    Well, as an object, whether noun or pronoun, is the object of something, normally a verb or preposition, and as a complete sentence needs a subject (which, with the imperative form of the verb may be implied), then the answer to your question has to be 'yes'. It doesn't seem to be very helpful though. It's covered by 'All complete sentences contain a subject'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Well, as an object, whether noun or pronoun, is the object of something, normally a verb or preposition, and as a complete sentence needs a subject (which, with the imperative form of the verb may be implied), then the answer to your question has to be 'yes'.
    According to this question, 'How many of the man's ribs are fractured?'
    This is a possible answer, 'Two of them are'.
    If 'them' is the 'object', where is the subject? Or in this case, 'Two of them' is the subject itself. If that is so, something that I believe, then wich part of speech is 'them'?

    It doesn't seem to be very helpful though. It's covered by 'All complete sentences contain a subject'.
    I completely agree with you, but not all complete sentences contain an object pro(noun). So, my idea is whenever you have an object pro(noun) in a sentence you should have a subject pro(noun). Right?

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