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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    There is a big difference between something making sense and something being factually accurate/inaccurate. Stating that "all men enjoy sex with women" is grammatically correct, makes sense (ie the meaning of the words put together can be understood) but is factually inaccurate.
    OK then, could you please tell me what you can say about my thought:

    Rage is to Comics like Rap is to Music

    1. Does not make sense?
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    2. Factually inaccurate?

    Thanks :)

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    It depends. I personally know nothing about comics so it is entirely possible that "Rage" is some kind of comic or magazine and that people "in the know" might be able to make sense of your statement. I would guess that the majority of native English speakers would not understand that sentence. They would understand that it was using the "A is to B as C is to D" construction and I'm sure most of them would see a connection between "rap" and "music", but I think the connection between "rage" and "comics" would be a mystery to most of them.

    I also don't think that one could describe all "A is to B as C is to D" constructions as either factually accurate or inaccurate because some of those statements are based on logic and others on one person's very subjective opinion.

    My original point still stands by the way - you have inappropriate capitalisation for a standard English sentence, if that is what it's meant to be.

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    hmmmm, If you don't know what I am talking about you will not be to help me, that's for sure.

    Well, let me explain...

    I believe you know rap music (Hip-hop Music)

    In the same manner, Rage comic is an internet meme for a comic centering on a titular rage guy drawn mostly with Microsoft Paint (nonprofessional drawings). Read about it here

    Now there's classic music for example, which I believe is a sophisticated type of music and I like it so much. Likewise, there's Marvel Comics which also is a sophisticated and professional type of comics and I like it too.

    What I am trying to say is: What Rage comics did to the comic world is exactly like what rap music did to the music world. Both (Rap & Rage) did badly to both (Music & Comics), and both are shame on both.

    Now instead of all this long speech, I wanted one sentence that says it all, it's my own opinion after all and I am not asking anyone to believe what I believe. I just want to make sure it's grammatically correct.

    Thank you

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    Rage is to Comics like Rap is to Music
    You need to change it to:
    Rage is to comics as Rap/rap is to music.


    That's grammatically correct. Whether it makes sense or not would depend a lot on the context. In a text, it could, as a stand-alone sentence, less so because it is unclear whether these things are good or bad.

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    I just had my daughter show me rage comics. I asked if she understood the analogy. She said it was sound.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    It works when you know the OP's views, but a rap fan might regard rap as having been a positive force for music, in which case it wouldn't work, which is why context would be important for me.

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    Or you could say that rap was a music of the people without fancy-schmancy classical training, just like rage is a comic form of the people, without graphical training. (Personally, I abhor rap, but then, I didn't find much to say about the rage comics either. They reminded me of Colorforms.)
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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    You need to change it to:
    Rage is to comics as Rap/rap is to music.

    That's grammatically correct. Whether it makes sense or not would depend a lot on the context. In a text, it could, as a stand-alone sentence, less so because it is unclear whether these things are good or bad.
    Now that's the answer I was expecting from this forum. Thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I just had my daughter show me rage comics. I asked if she understood the analogy. She said it was sound.
    Please pardon my English, I don't exactly get what you mean by "the analogy was sound". Does it mean that my analogy DOES make sense to your daughter?

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    Yes, it worked as it was intended.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Is this correct eloquent English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Yes, it worked as it was intended.
    Oh I see, then I think I know how she feels when she listens to rap music or watches rage comics ;)

    Well, I believe I have got all the answers I need.

    Thank you, all of you.

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