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    Default Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    I was seeing a magazine a while ago. And I'm confused now because there seems like missing words are in the sentence.

    Is "when you are" left out in front of the word "using" in the sentence far below? If so, Does leaving out "when you are" make sentence more formal?

    "Add instant glamour to your hair by pinning feathers or ribbons into a messy up-do. This Jason Wu look is surprisingly easy to create at home: just pin hair back in sections and add in strips of fabric or ribbon using kirby grips."(excerpt from magazine)

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    'When you are' is not omitted, and should not be added - unless you want to give a different meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    'When you are' is not omitted, and should not be added - unless you want to give a different meaning.
    Thank you 5jj.
    But, I'm still confused.
    Does ".... strips of fabric or ribbon using kirby grips." mean ".... strips of fabric or ribbon which uses kirby grips."?
    I'm not sure whether "strips of fabric or ribbon" can use kirby grips.
    Last edited by eggcracker; 15-Jun-2012 at 17:02.

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by eggcracker View Post
    "add in strips of fabric or ribbon using kirby grips."(excerpt from magazine)
    Hi,

    I see no reason why one can't use kirby grips to hold the strips of fabric or ribbon to the hair.



    The only consideration that comes to my mind is how carefully you should use them (they might rip the ribbon, or tear the fabric, or....)

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    PS: I just posted the picture because I didn't know what "kirby grips" are; so any other member might learn that too.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    Those are called "bobby pins" in AmE. I'd never heard of "kirby grips."

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by eggcracker View Post
    Thank you 5jj.
    But, I'm still confused.
    Does ".... strips of fabric or ribbon using kirby grips." mean ".... strips of fabric or ribbon which uses kirby grips."?
    I'm not whether "sure strips of fabric or ribbon" can use kirby grips.
    Hi, eggcracker.
    In your sentence, 'using kirby grips,' which functions as an adverbial phrase, modifies the verb 'add,'
    I'm not sure if I've managed to answer your question, but I think 'using' here is similar to 'with.'
    Or you could say 'by using kirby grips.'

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hi, eggcracker.
    In your sentence, 'using kirby grips,' which functions as an adverbial phrase, modifies the verb 'add,'
    I'm not sure if I've managed to answer your question, but I think 'using' here is similar to 'with.'
    Or you could say 'by using kirby grips.'
    Hello tzfujimino.
    Perhaps "by" was left out before the word 'using' in the sentence"...add in strips of fabric or ribbon using kirby grips.", I suppose.
    Last edited by eggcracker; 15-Jun-2012 at 17:30. Reason: typo....

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by eggcracker View Post
    I was seeing a magazine a while ago. And I'm confused now because there seems like missing words are in the sentence.

    Is "when you are" left out in front of the word "using" in the sentence far below? If so, Does leaving out "when you are" make sentence more formal?

    "Add instant glamour to your hair by pinning feathers or ribbons into a messy up-do. This Jason Wu look is surprisingly easy to create at home: just pin hair back in sections and add in strips of fabric or ribbon using kirby grips."(excerpt from magazine)
    Nothing has been omitted but the word "by" could indeed be added before "using". The explanation could be expanded like this:

    Pin your hair back in sections, and add strips of fabric or ribbon. Add those strips of fabric or ribbon by using kirby grips (to attach them (the strips) to your hair).

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    Default Re: Is "when you are" omitted in this sentence?

    Or even more simply: Use kirby grips to pin strips of fabric or ribbon to your hair.

    (I had no idea what kirby grips were either, until now!)
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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