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    Default In fall or in the fall

    Hi teachers,

    1) Leaves fall from the trees in autumn. If I use "fall" instead, do I have to add "the"? As "Leaves fall from the trees in the fall." ?
    2) The trees are coming into leaf. Means it is growing leaves? Why is "leaf" used?

    Many thanks.

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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Naeem PTC View Post
    Hi teachers,

    1) Leaves fall from the trees in autumn. If I use "fall" instead, do I have to add "the"? As "Leaves fall from the trees in the fall." ?
    2) The trees are coming into leaf. Means it is growing leaves? Why is "leaf" used?

    Many thanks.
    In BrE, we use "autumn" not "fall" for the season and, in your sentence, we would not necessarily use the article (though there's nothing wrong with it).

    Leaves fall from the trees in autumn.
    Leaves fall from the trees in the autumn.

    If a tree is "in leaf" it means it currently has leaves on its branches. If it is "coming into leaf" then the leaves are starting to show through.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    Thank you.
    Leaves fall...in fall or in the fall.

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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Naeem PTC View Post
    Thank you.
    Leaves fall...in fall or in the fall.
    You will have to wait for an AmE speaker to confirm that one for you. I can only tell you that in BrE, and using the word "autumn", the definite article is optional.
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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You will have to wait for an AmE speaker to confirm that one for you.
    While we are waiting, here's a limerick in which 'the' is used.

    There once was a fellow named Hall
    Who died in a spring in a fall.
    'Twould have been a sad thing
    Had he died in the spring
    But he didn't, he died in the fall.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    I would say "the fall" in this example.

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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    I would say "the fall" in this example.
    Do you mean in 5jj's limerick?

    Without 'the' it wouldn't scan.

    Rover

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    Default Re: In fall or in the fall

    I meant in the original poster's sentence. I could live with or without the "the," but I think in most cases it sound better with it.

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