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    Default Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Hi teachers,
    They live happily together even though Arthur is fifty-five years old.
    Could, 'without being affected by the fact that' be a good explanation to 'even though'?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    'Despite the fact that...' is closer to the original. We don't neccessarily know that they were unaffected.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    'Despite the fact that...' is closer to the original. We don't neccessarily know that they were unaffected.
    Hi,
    Thank you for your reply. But this one is really difficult to be explained to students. I'm just trying to find a way that makes sense in English and at the same time it is understandable.
    This one doesn't sound too good, 'apart from the reality that', does it?

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    No
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    Hi,
    Thank you for your reply. But this one is really difficult to be explained to students. I'm just trying to find a way that makes sense in English and at the same time it is understandable.
    This one doesn't sound too good, 'apart from the reality that', does it?

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    No. What did you not like about "Despite the fact that ..."?
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 28-Jun-2012 at 12:30.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    No. What did you not like about "Despite the fact that ..."
    Hi,
    I didn't say I didn't like it. I know it is the best one. I just want to find one phrase that can be easily understood to my students. Look for a phrase that 'even though' it is English, can fit and sound good.
    But it is really hard to find one for this sentence connector. Though I can also add that it shows a surprising contrast between the two clauses

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    Last edited by learning54; 28-Jun-2012 at 10:21.

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

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    Hello, Learning:

    1. I was wondering whether this "trick" might work.

    2. I think that I read somewhere that if the words "although" and "even though" did not exist, we would have to

    express the idea in other ways. For example: Yes, but.

    a. Yes, Arthur is fifty-five years old, but they live happily together.

    b. Yes, the Parser is stupid, but his wife still loves him. (His wife loves him even though the Parser is stupid.)

    c. Yes, smoking is bad for one's health, but many people continue to do so. (Many people continue to smoke even though it is bad for one's health.)

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Hi TheParser,
    Thank you for you reply. Where did you take that information from? I really like it.

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    Where did you take that information from?
    Thank you for your kind note.

    I do not remember where I read that. But I never forgot that advice.

    HAVE A NICE DAY!

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    Default Re: Is it a good explanation for 'even though'?

    Quote Originally Posted by learning54 View Post
    They live happily together even though Arthur is fifty-five years old.
    Without more context that explains why his age might be a problem, this doesn't strike me as a very good example.

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