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    Dear All,

    I don't understand why "on Monday", if they just say "on Monday", readers don't know which Monday, this Monday or last Monday or the Monday before last, please advise.




    BBC News - North Korea names Hyon Yong-Chol as new army chief

    Mr Hyon replaces Ri Yong Ho, whom North Korea media reported had been relieved of his responsibilities on Monday because of illness.


    The decision was made by top North Korean officials on Monday, KCNA said.





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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    The most recent Monday that has passed.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    Thanks. I understood they are talking the most recent Monday cos readers can guess it. In the daily life, should we use this way in our writing? Make it clearly should we say "The decision was made by top North Korean officials this Monday, KCNA said."?

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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    The article has been tidied up since you posted.

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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    The most recent Monday that has passed.
    Use your head for Heaven's sake, Eng_Fan! Of course readers know which - most verbs have tense markers.

    Sorry to be so curt, but this forum is getting more and more cluttered up by people who ignore the communicative aspect of language. Things can seem unclear when you consider them devoid of context. But in the real world things aren't. For example,we know that 'crocodile shoes' aren't the sort of shoes crocodiles wear, because we know they dont! So there's no excuse for asking 'If cricketers' shoes are worn by cricketers, why aren't crocodile shoes worn by crocodiles?' - unless you're Milton Jones.

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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    Please calm down. Just wanted to know if the media have to use accurate word or phrase to describe what happened, otherwise they would possibly be challenged. My English sense is not good enough, just wanted to consult the experts here, one can choose not answering me if one thinks my topic is not one's cup of tea....that's it.

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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    The media should use accurate language, but the demands of rolling news and constant updates, where speed is the most important thing, mean that mistakes and sloppy language creep in. In this case, the sentences were poorly written and have since been edited. Articles start appearing on sites like the BBC within minutes of an event sometimes- they are often then changed and edited.

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    Default Re: "on Monday" BBC news

    Yup. I didn't get to see the original text, which may have been seriously unckear.

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