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    Thumbs down difference between two sentences

    1.The old man sat watching the tv programs.

    2.The old man watched tv programs sitting.
    do the sentences above express the same meaning? are here ''the old man sat watching.....'' and ''the old man watched tv programs sitting'' participles and work adverbially expressing cause? please explain grammatically .

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    Default Re: difference between two sentences

    Dear Teachers,
    Can I ask some questions?
    In the first sentence, can I rewrite into the following sentences?
    1. The old man sat to watch the TV programs.
    2. The old man who was watching the TV program sat.
    Thank a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anhnha View Post
    Dear Teachers,
    Can I ask some questions?
    In the first sentence, can I rewrite into the following sentences?
    1. The old man sat to watch the TV programs.
    2. The old man who was watching the TV program sat.
    Thank a lot!
    1. The purpose of his taking a seat was to watch TV.
    2. This tells you which old man sat down.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: difference between two sentences

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
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    Although I do not want to question tv programs' inability to sit, I would like to ask, why the progressive 'sitting' can refer only to 'tv programs' and not to 'old man'.
    Thank you in advance
    Last edited by tom3m; 28-Jul-2012 at 09:42. Reason: UNABILITY changed to inability

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3m View Post
    Although I do not want to question tv programs' unability to sit, I would like to ask, why the progressive 'sitting' can refer only to 'tv programs' and not to 'old man'.
    Thank you in advance
    Hello, tom3m.

    "The old man watched tv programs sitting." is indeed similar in construction to "The old man heard the boy crying." (I think this is what Gillnetter meant.)

    "The old man watched TV programs, sitting on the couch." might work. (I'm not sure if it's natural or not, but it looks fine to me.)

    "The old man sat watching TV programs." is probably the best.

    P.S. I think you meant 'inability'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hello, tom3m.

    "The old man watched tv programs sitting." is indeed similar in construction to "The old man heard the boy crying." (I think this is what Gillnetter meant.)

    "The old man watched TV programs, sitting on the couch." might work. (I'm not sure if it's natural or not, but it looks fine to me.)

    "The old man sat watching TV programs." is probably the best.

    P.S. I think you meant 'inability'.
    Thank you, I just thought that there could be ambiguity and therefore two ways of understanding the sentence.

    "The old man sat watching TV programs." is probably the best. -
    Despite trying, this replacement did not come to my mind, thanks.

    P.S. unability corrected, I thought the word was derived from the adjective unable, thanks for correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hello, tom3m.

    "The old man watched tv programs sitting." is indeed similar in construction to "The old man heard the boy crying." (I think this is what Gillnetter meant.)

    "The old man watched TV programs, sitting on the couch." might work. (I'm not sure if it's natural or not, but it looks fine to me.)

    "The old man sat watching TV programs." is probably the best.

    P.S. I think you meant 'inability'.
    then can i rewrite the sentence ''the old man sat on the couch watching the tv programs''?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3m View Post
    Although I do not want to question tv programs' inability to sit, I would like to ask, why the progressive 'sitting' can refer only to 'tv programs' and not to 'old man'.
    Thank you in advance
    Here ''sitting'' do not refer to ''tv programs'', it refers to the old man.The old man watched tv programs sitting if i split the sentence like this ''The old man watched tv programs while he was sitting''.If i question who is sitting? the answer is ''the old man'' so sitting refers to the old man only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    1. The purpose of his taking a seat was to watch TV.
    2. This tells you which old man sat down.
    is the sentence ''The old man sat watching tv programs'' same as 1) ''The old man sat to watch the tv programs'',2) ''The old man watched tv programs sitting'' grammatically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babai View Post
    Then can I rewrite the sentence into ''the old man sat on the couch watching the TV programs''?
    Hello, Babai.
    I'd say it's grammatically correct.
    I've just visited COCA (Corpus of Contemporary American English) and found 2 citations.
    And 6 more here: phrases containing sit on the couch watching

    P.S. Correct capitalization is advisable.


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