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    Default Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    I thought "Even a monkey can fall from a tree.", a Korean saying, exists in English. Don't you ever have this kind of expression? The following seems to mean "Even a great poet, Homer, sometimes admits his mistake.", right?

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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    I found the meaning of "nod", which is "doze off". So even a great person can make a mistake.
    But for the monkey example, a Japanese saying, is it also common?

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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    "Even Homer nods" exists, and is doubtless still used and understood in certain circles. I do not think that the average native speaker uses it much, and I would guess that quite a few wouldn't understand it.
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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    I have never heard that one either and would wonder why it was odd that Homer sometimes agreed with people.
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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I have never heard that one either and would wonder why it was odd that Homer sometimes agreed with people.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction) Scroll down to "Homeric Nod". I don't know whether it's the same meaning, but to me it suggests that even great geniuses can err.

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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    I'm simply telling you my reaction to hearing this.
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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I'm simply telling you my reaction to hearing this.
    Yes, I understood that. I had never ever heard it myself, let alone use it! Just wanted to make sure it referred to narrative, not to anything more general.

    Sorry if I failed to make myself properly understood

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    Default Re: Even a monkey can fall from a tree.

    Did you see that the guy from the Wall Street Journal uses it as the heading for his "Oops" column?
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