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    Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

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    and the country has been in a transitional period of politics, econ- omy and culture,
    with different forces and discourses co-existing and complementing each other: some scholars
    are still exploring cultural theory proper and its value in the academic circles,

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    No, it doesn't. PLEASE try looking in some dictionaries here Before you post these questions about words. We can help if you have problems with the definitions, but we shouldn't be asked to stand in for dictionaries.
    Last edited by 5jj; 03-Aug-2012 at 21:49. Reason: typo

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
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    and the country has been in a transitional period of politics, econ- omy and culture,
    with different forces and discourses co-existing and complementing each other: some scholars
    are still exploring cultural theory proper and its value in the academic circles,

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    I don't understand this sentence. Shouldn't it be

    ...some scholars are still exploring cultural theory and its proper value in the academic circles.

    That makes sense to me.
    Last edited by Chicken Sandwich; 03-Aug-2012 at 18:31.

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    Well, I find out one:

    complete in every detail

    Not sure though

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    Well, I find out one:

    complete in every detail

    Not sure though
    I have found a definition of "proper" which is probably the one you're looking for. See #4 proper - Definition from Longman English Dictionary Online. It fits because in your sentence, "proper" is placed after a noun and it also seems to make sense.

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    Well, I find out one:

    complete in every detail
    If you used this dictionary, which gives that as the first definition, you could have scrolled down to the fifth definition, which even tells you that the word is not used before a noun in this sense - bit of a giveaway. As I have suggested elsewhere, NewHopeR, you can help yourself by looking at all the definitions of a word with their examples of the word in use - and use more than one dictionary. This will help you get an idea of the ways in which a word is used.

    If you just keep posting your words here, and waiting for someone else to do the work, you are not helping yourself learn.

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    No, it doesn't. PLEASE try looking in some dictionaries here Before you post these questions about words. We can help if you have problems with the definitions, but we shouldm't be asked to stand in for dictionaries.
    (You might have suspected that your guess was wrong, as 'proper' is an adjective and 'thoroughly' is not.)

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    Re: Does "proper" mean "thoroughly" here?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    (You might have suspected that your guess was wrong, as 'proper' is an adjective and 'thoroughly' is not.)

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    That's my English-Chinese dictionary's problem (one of the definitions bestows proper adv.). I'd checked out three different dicts before posting the question here.

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